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jzancan A Contender
Posts : 197 Join date : 2010-04-19 Location : Crofton, Maryland
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:25 am | |
| - Unorthadox1080 wrote:
- I know this isn't really relevant to this thread but I've seen a lot of criticism of Handwritten recently and this has got me thinking. I really like it a lot, and probably would have it second to the 59 sound. However I think the problem with it may have been there was nothing distinctive about it. American Slang is their best album lyrically, 59 sound has the best songs and Sink or Swim has that raw sound and energy which we all love. There's nothing like that you can pin to Handwritten.
You know, I think you might be onto something here. I never I thought about it that way. I might have some amendments to what you find distinctive in each album, but that's just a matter of personal taste. Handwritten had a great sonic quality, but that had more to do with production, I think, than the songs themselves, and I found the lyrics pretty bland. It was fun to hear, but not fun to listen to, if that makes sense. | |
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Mike_Millburys_Shoe Red In The Morning
Posts : 59 Join date : 2014-06-18 Age : 31 Location : Clifton Park, NY
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:36 am | |
| - jzancan wrote:
- Unorthadox1080 wrote:
- I know this isn't really relevant to this thread but I've seen a lot of criticism of Handwritten recently and this has got me thinking. I really like it a lot, and probably would have it second to the 59 sound. However I think the problem with it may have been there was nothing distinctive about it. American Slang is their best album lyrically, 59 sound has the best songs and Sink or Swim has that raw sound and energy which we all love. There's nothing like that you can pin to Handwritten.
You know, I think you might be onto something here. I never I thought about it that way. I might have some amendments to what you find distinctive in each album, but that's just a matter of personal taste. Handwritten had a great sonic quality, but that had more to do with production, I think, than the songs themselves, and I found the lyrics pretty bland. It was fun to hear, but not fun to listen to, if that makes sense. You want distinctive?! Handwritten had more Whoa-oh!'s than ANY other album! Seriously, though, I loved Handwritten. All of it. These two songs sound like a huge step up though. | |
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brianisbae A Contender
Posts : 289 Join date : 2010-04-24 Age : 31 Location : Central Massachusetts
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:17 am | |
| I loved Handwritten when it came out but looking back, besides Mae and Handwritten, not much stands out. I still think they're all great songs but we hold Gaslight to such a high standard that it felt like they weren't doing all that they could. Maybe they felt pressured by their label? I think I've said it on here before but it sounded like Gaslight was being a caricature of themselves with Handwritten. This sounds like they're on the fringe and really pushing their sound, so I'm very excited to say the least | |
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Brother Beck Red In The Morning
Posts : 14 Join date : 2012-07-20 Location : Massachusetts
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:08 pm | |
| Holy shit.
I've had the same reaction to each one of these "Get Hurt" songs that we've heard or heard clips from so far - when I first hear it I don't like it right away and my only thought is "What the hell?!?" and then pretty quickly - like partway through the song - I am absolutely loving what they are doing. And then I like it even more on each listen. I'm gonna have to be careful not to overplay these songs before I even get the chance to hear them in the context of the album.
I know it is ridiculously early to make a statement like this, but if the whole album features this level of writing and musicianship it could be something really special that stands the test of time. I have my fingers crossed...
Sort of tied into this idea and also what people are saying about Handwritten, with that album nothing really surprised me or caught me off guard with any of those songs. To one degree or another I really liked them all right off the bat, and that's pretty much where they still stand for me, with the exception of Mae and Desire. Mae has grown in my regard over time into what I consider to be one of their absolute best songs period while I don't really care for the album version of Desire at all and don't ever listen to it. But the point is I feel like those songs struck me right away as Gaslight playing cool Gaslight songs, which I like a lot because I'm a big fan of theirs, and that's sort of where they still stand.
I have no musical ability whatsoever. I have never written a song. I have a huge amount of respect for Brian and the other guys in the band and what they do. The idea that they could all make an album as incredible as Handwritten while not pushing themselves to their limits creatively or while buckling to studio or big name producer pressure or whatever the case may or may not have been is pretty damn mind blowing.
I realize I have no idea about the internal workings of this band and I don't know anything at all about what goes on behind the scenes, but my honest opinion a few years out is that both Elsie and Handwritten suffered a tiny bit from Elsie being a side-project and not just the 4th Gaslight album. And I think those are both incredible albums, but I don't really see Elsie as being that drastically different from the rest of their music. Yeah it's a little slower and moodier, but I love the slower more atmospheric Gaslight songs. It's not like Elsie was completely electronic or anything crazy like that. I only bring this up now because from the little hints we've heard from Get Hurt so far it seems like Brian has brought that THC sensibility or willingness to take risks creatively and musically to this album and I can't wait to hear the results. | |
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thomas94 I'da called you Woody
Posts : 669 Join date : 2009-04-05 Age : 30 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:44 pm | |
| After all you guys have said about the new album and your feelings about the new material there's not that much left to say. I'll still try to find a few words. I have mentioned this earlier before, but while you guys are optimistic how much soundgarden-/black keys-/pearl jam-like they sound right now, most of the news have kinda descreased my expectations. Well, the album cover looks the most uncreative I could imagine. But since it got released I started to care less about that every day, because what I really care about is the sound. Just got bummed that the bundles for the album have the same design as well, I hoped for some El Jefe/Rockets Are Red designs for the shirts/posters at least. After desperately repeating the teaser trying to find some emotion, I gave up. I mean: It's just 40 seconds, but they made Brian's voice vanish under the guitar/drum sounds, which feels like a big loss since the same thing occurs on "Rolllin and Tumblin" too. "Rollin and Tumblin" is growing on me though, not a bad song . As I have discovered quite a few bands destroying their unique sound by wildly using synthesizers (of which's use Brian has often talked concering this album), I'm hoping the best. Made me kinda nervous seeing Alex R. using stuff like that http://instagram.com/p/oO73gRsNu_/ . Just don't want them to sound artificial or grungy as hell - like some user called Barresi said. Already found a few killer lyrics though, which make me feel a little more positive too...
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CasanovaBaby90 A Contender
Posts : 176 Join date : 2012-01-24 Age : 34 Location : Vancouver, BC
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:32 pm | |
| I've been away for a week and I'm out of the loop as to what has been released. Can somebody fill me in with links? I tried going back a few pages but I'm afraid I've missed something. | |
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CapedAvenger Wooderson
Posts : 313 Join date : 2012-06-18 Age : 41 Location : Leeds, UK
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:48 pm | |
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CasanovaBaby90 A Contender
Posts : 176 Join date : 2012-01-24 Age : 34 Location : Vancouver, BC
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:30 pm | |
| Thanks!! Heard both of them. I don't know why but I wasn't as excited for these songs as I was for 45 and HCMM. Hope the rest of the record is great. | |
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23Punk Red In The Morning
Posts : 44 Join date : 2014-05-31 Location : New Jersey
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:18 pm | |
| I think of this new album as when American Slang came out back in 2010, it was drastically different from the bands 2 previous albums. At first I didn't know what to think of the album American Slang when it came out because it was different, now 4 years later to me its one of their classic albums along with Sink or Swim and The 59 Sound. In my opinion American Slang and Handwritten are the same album, sonically not as much but topic wise without a doubt. The band grew when they made American Slang, and now the new album Get Hurt seems like it will be the same as American Slang in the sense that its different and might take sometime to get used to just like American Slang. I don't mind that at all I hope its extremely different but still contains the core of Gaslight. I find it interesting that Get Hurt is being released August 19, that's the same date 6 years ago that The 59 Sound was released.
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infoghost Red In The Morning
Posts : 30 Join date : 2009-04-30
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:03 am | |
| I am digging Rollin' the more I listen. It really does sound like it could fit on AS. I really hope we get more guitar from Alex, listening to AS on the way in...man I really missed that on the last one. | |
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Steve70s Wooderson
Posts : 425 Join date : 2012-01-27 Age : 51 Location : Lincolnshire
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:03 am | |
| American Slang is my favourite album - fingers crossed! | |
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Jack The '59 Sound
Posts : 1218 Join date : 2009-12-12 Location : Jersey
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:20 am | |
| - infoghost wrote:
- I am digging Rollin' the more I listen. It really does sound like it could fit on AS. I really hope we get more guitar from Alex, listening to AS on the way in...man I really missed that on the last one.
Huh? Handwritten is their most guitar-heavy album to date. And Brian said Alex R played a lot of keyboards on this one so I highly doubt their will be more than last time. Anyway, my thoughts on the songs leaked so far…eh. To me they're just kinda there. Definitely two of the most blasé reactions I've had to Gaslight songs, which is extremely disappointing, especially because the clip of Stay Vicious got me so excited. That being said, neither of the songs are bad and I'm sure they'll both grow on me quite a bit over time. | |
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StitchesOnTheRadio First Among Equals
Posts : 3009 Join date : 2012-04-13 Location : New Jersey
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:09 pm | |
| I do not understand those of you saying AS and HW were very similar and AS was leaps and bounds away from 59. I think of 59 and AS being far closer to one another (although not the same) and HW being the first bigger jump. | |
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borrowedcar A Contender
Posts : 226 Join date : 2010-02-07
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:43 pm | |
| rollin and tumblin just sounds more generic. part of the appeal of 59S and AS was the catchy riffs in the choruses, easily some of the best hooks out there. HW seemed to ditch that TGA sound. Rollin and Tumblin has that same vibe. That being said when TGA comes to town I don't care how bad the latest album is I will go and have a blast | |
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eagles1139 I'da called you Woody
Posts : 721 Join date : 2011-08-22 Age : 30 Location : Connecticut
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:06 pm | |
| Both "Rollin & Tumblin" and "Get Hurt" are gonna make for great acoustic performances. I felt that the higher vocals on the Handwritten songs made some of the acoustic performances less stellar. The gruff deep vocals suit Brian better. | |
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steady now steady now The Navesink Banks
Posts : 3277 Join date : 2009-04-03 Location : England
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:31 am | |
| re. the artwork, I hadn't noticed this until I read it on another board (shame one me), but the Get Hurt cover does not only show an inverted heart, but can also be seen as showing a red ace of spades minus the 'stalk' | |
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Hanswurst Wooderson
Posts : 558 Join date : 2012-04-27 Age : 30 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:21 am | |
| Or just a red ace of hearts turned upside down? heres to hoping the singles will have a turned around ace of Spades(second single), Diamonds(third single), Clubs(fourth single) also i don't think this will be likely to happen | |
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Steve70s Wooderson
Posts : 425 Join date : 2012-01-27 Age : 51 Location : Lincolnshire
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:38 am | |
| How can you have a red ace of spades when it's black? | |
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DeathoftheCool The Navesink Banks
Posts : 1953 Join date : 2010-07-26 Age : 30 Location : The Dreaded Barbary Coast
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:35 am | |
| To me rollin and tumblin is the perfect balance of sink or swim and handwritten, with everything they've learned as a band in between | |
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The_River A Contender
Posts : 291 Join date : 2013-10-07
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:48 pm | |
| - steady now steady now wrote:
- re. the artwork, I hadn't noticed this until I read it on another board (shame on me), but the Get Hurt cover does not only show an inverted heart, but can also be seen as showing a red ace of spades minus the 'stalk'
I really think it's just way more simple than this. It's just a simple "heart, put down". Seems clear to me what this is all about. Straight to the point. Nothing hidden in here. | |
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Shrewsbury_Stars The Navesink Banks
Posts : 1512 Join date : 2010-05-06 Location : Back In The Swamps of Jersey
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:29 pm | |
| - steady now steady now wrote:
- re. the artwork, I hadn't noticed this until I read it on another board (shame one me), but the Get Hurt cover does not only show an inverted heart, but can also be seen as showing a red ace of spades minus the 'stalk'
I assume you're just trying to be funny. | |
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23Punk Red In The Morning
Posts : 44 Join date : 2014-05-31 Location : New Jersey
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:49 am | |
| I was checking YouTube and I noticed a few songs got leaked from the new album. That to me is sad who ever allowed that to happen. I am not listening to those tracks I want to hear the entire album when I buy a physical copy of the cd. I am amazed that leaks even still happen today. To me when an album gets leaked ahead of a release date its takes something away from the artist, or the band it should be special to wait until its released and then to go out and buy a copy.
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The Last Jukebox Romeo Wooderson
Posts : 519 Join date : 2012-12-19 Age : 28 Location : Southampton, England
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:20 am | |
| - 23Punk wrote:
I was checking YouTube and I noticed a few songs got leaked from the new album. That to me is sad who ever allowed that to happen. I am not listening to those tracks I want to hear the entire album when I buy a physical copy of the cd. I am amazed that leaks even still happen today. To me when an album gets leaked ahead of a release date its takes something away from the artist, or the band it should be special to wait until its released and then to go out and buy a copy. I don't think those other songs on Youtube are actually real, if you click on them they'll probably just be some shit saying "click here to download the album." As far as i'm aware, only 'Rollin and Tumblin' and 'Get Hurt' are out. | |
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steady now steady now The Navesink Banks
Posts : 3277 Join date : 2009-04-03 Location : England
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:50 am | |
| - The Last Jukebox Romeo wrote:
- 23Punk wrote:
I was checking YouTube and I noticed a few songs got leaked from the new album. That to me is sad who ever allowed that to happen. I am not listening to those tracks I want to hear the entire album when I buy a physical copy of the cd. I am amazed that leaks even still happen today. To me when an album gets leaked ahead of a release date its takes something away from the artist, or the band it should be special to wait until its released and then to go out and buy a copy. I don't think those other songs on Youtube are actually real, if you click on them they'll probably just be some shit saying "click here to download the album." As far as i'm aware, only 'Rollin and Tumblin' and 'Get Hurt' are out. just a scam | |
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CasanovaBaby90 A Contender
Posts : 176 Join date : 2012-01-24 Age : 34 Location : Vancouver, BC
| Subject: Re: 'Get Hurt' - the new Gaslight Anthem album (advance discussion) [out 11/12 August] Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:50 am | |
| How are people feeling about listening to new tracks this time around? I only listened to 45 and avoided HCMM last time around. Not feeling the same this time, I'm thinking I'll listen to a full leak if it comes. | |
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