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| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:22 pm | |
| Here's something I wrote after my paper covered Occupy Oakland's General Strike last fall.
Pete Seeger Would Be Proud
The march is moving down the street, intense as can be; The band is playing some tunes; Circling around the plaza and the tents, they shout, “Long live Oakland.”
Windows broken; Gestures obscene, fingers flying in the air; The march goes on, to the waterfront they go.
“One love, one people,” the chants continue; No cops on the scene; Maybe it’s better this time around.
Kids, seniors, and animals alike, they show their colors; Solidarity’s hard to find these days, when all you see is a couch on the porch and no one’s there to say “hello.”
Crates stacked high; The voices heard from the top; They keep marching toward the port; No end in sight.
Deep in my heart, I do believe, If a revolution comes to my country Let me remember now, We shall overcome someday. |
| | | IrishNameAndAnInjury The Navesink Banks
Posts : 13514 Join date : 2011-09-16 Age : 41 Location : Spokane Valley, WA
| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:26 pm | |
| Mac, that was great! I love the theme, especially because it feels like it could have been about a protest in the sixties, but it's a modern day problem. It just shows how some things never change, but should. The third stanza is my favorite. I think it illustrates the fight and the hope beautifully, and it's a good reminder that protests can be peaceful at times, with people working together for the same cause. Pete Seeger would definitely be proud. | |
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| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:53 pm | |
| Thanks, Shannon! |
| | | JimmyB The Navesink Banks
Posts : 5619 Join date : 2010-10-27 Age : 32 Location : Pennsylvania-The land of the Three Rivers.
| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:28 pm | |
| I've lost my wishes, and given up on hope On the last rung and last inch of rope. You stole my heart out, and and threw it to The moon The sins of my father shapes my life.
So Just dry your eyes And quit singing all your lies Go away from me now I am finished with this pain. | |
| | | IrishNameAndAnInjury The Navesink Banks
Posts : 13514 Join date : 2011-09-16 Age : 41 Location : Spokane Valley, WA
| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:35 pm | |
| I like it, Jimmy! It's really sad, but it doesn't depress me, so that's a win in my book. My favorite line is still the one about the sins of my father. It stands out in a really strong way. Just a couple of notes. Watch your capitalization. Unless it's a proper noun or the first word in the line, it doesn't need to be capitalized. For example, "...threw it to The moon" and "So Just dry...". Also, I think you meant to write "The sins of my father shape my life", not shapes my life. Good work! Write on! | |
| | | JimmyB The Navesink Banks
Posts : 5619 Join date : 2010-10-27 Age : 32 Location : Pennsylvania-The land of the Three Rivers.
| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:36 pm | |
| I just wrote those down before I forgot them...I must have left the caps button on. See, I write down lyrics before they fall out of my head. | |
| | | IrishNameAndAnInjury The Navesink Banks
Posts : 13514 Join date : 2011-09-16 Age : 41 Location : Spokane Valley, WA
| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:41 pm | |
| - JimmyB wrote:
- I just wrote those down before I forgot them...I must have left the caps button on. See, I write down lyrics before they fall out of my head.
Ah, gotcha. I do the same thing with poetry. I always carry a notebook with me wherever I go so I can write down lines that pop into my head. If I don't, they'll be gone 30 seconds later. That's what happens when you're "a cannonball to a house on fire". There's too much going on all the time to remember everything! | |
| | | JimmyB The Navesink Banks
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| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:07 pm | |
| Yeah...Whenever I come across a lyric entering my head, I repeat it in my head, until I can write it down, or else it disappears, and Probably is gone forever, although some have come back from time to time, | |
| | | JimmyB The Navesink Banks
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| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:52 pm | |
| I've lost my wishes, and given up on hope On the last rung and last inch of rope. You stole my heart out, and and threw it to The moon The sins of my father shapes my life.
So Just dry your eyes And quit singing all your lies Leave me now For I am finished with this pain.
Dry your soul less eyes for you Janey, you always lied. | |
| | | IrishNameAndAnInjury The Navesink Banks
Posts : 13514 Join date : 2011-09-16 Age : 41 Location : Spokane Valley, WA
| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:13 pm | |
| I like those two lines you added at the end, Jimmy. Was Janey a Bruce reference or Bob Seger, or both? Adding the name made it seem a little more personal and gave some extra depth to the lyrics. Nice job! P.S. - Soulless is one word. | |
| | | JimmyB The Navesink Banks
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| | | | IrishNameAndAnInjury The Navesink Banks
Posts : 13514 Join date : 2011-09-16 Age : 41 Location : Spokane Valley, WA
| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:25 pm | |
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| | | Red_Heels A Contender
Posts : 127 Join date : 2012-03-09 Age : 38 Location : In a permanent dream.
| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:28 pm | |
| Jimmy, I just read your lyrics and I must say...VERY GOOD! I think you have a lot of talent. | |
| | | Harbortown The Navesink Banks
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| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:42 am | |
| - JimmyB wrote:
- I've lost my wishes, and given up on hope
On the last rung and last inch of rope. You stole my heart out, and and threw it to The moon The sins of my father shapes my life.
So Just dry your eyes And quit singing all your lies Leave me now For I am finished with this pain.
Dry your soul less eyes for you Janey, you always lied. I'm gonna go ahead and scrutinize this a little bit, I hope you don't mind. Why am I going to go ahead and scrutinize it? Because the first two lines are fantastic. I learned in songwriting that the most important line of the song is the first line, that's usually what reels people in. I'm having one of those "Why didn't I write that?"-moments. So it starts out great and then it kinda takes a weird turn. I'd change stole to took/ripped, or keep the stole and just take out the out. To me it just seems to flow better that way. Also, that line doesn't rhyme with the next one. Which, normally, would be fine, but a lot of other lines do so when you suddenly decide to not do that it's just awkward. You could go for a soft rhyme if you can't think of anything. If you don't know what that is, it's words that don't exactly rhyme but sound similar. Like shine and lime, as opposed to hope and rope which is a hard rhyme. Also, that line about your father seems very much out of place. I'm sure you've got an explanation behind it but unless you're writing psychedelic Bob Dylan lyrics the listener shouldn't have to guess too much. Now I'm not saying all lyrics have to be 100% crystal clear, they just have to fit. Now it's like you go from one thing to another way too rapidly. Don't put too many stories into one song. Furthermore I'm not quite sure why you added those last two lines. They seem like a continuation of the chorus, but they're apart from the chorus. Halfway through writing all this shit I realized it's a stupid idea because you never bother reading anything anyone reads anyway, but, yeah. Fucking read it, kid. You got potential. | |
| | | IrishNameAndAnInjury The Navesink Banks
Posts : 13514 Join date : 2011-09-16 Age : 41 Location : Spokane Valley, WA
| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:05 am | |
| This is carried over from a different thread that I didn't want to derail (as I tend to do!). Just out of curiousity, are there any other novelists out there? - steady now steady now wrote:
- IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:
- It was an honest mistake, don't worry about it! One time I sent out a query letter to a literary agent about my novel and accidentally addressed it Ms. so-and-so instead of Mr. I was so mortified I beat myself up about it for months. Surprise, surprise, I never got a response. So...yeah...it could be worse!
Novel? Let's hear more some time. Haha, yeah I'm a writer...aspiring to be published. I have been working on a women's fiction series (four novels so far) among other things. In case anyone is interested in what they're about, here is the blurb from my proposal package for the first book (basically what you would read on the back cover of a book): It is the summer of 1986, and recent high school graduate Willow Ryan is pregnant. Not wanting to disappoint her family or ruin the father’s life, Willow leaves Indiana for charming Santa Elena, California, determined to raise her child on her own without telling a soul back home. She lands a job working for a quirky Southern belle named Peggy, who has a knack for finding trouble - and humor - in the most unlikely places. Willow’s new neighbor, a friendly surfer dude named Denny, quickly becomes someone she can count on for anything, but could there be more to their relationship than Willow sees?
Get ready to laugh out loud and a shed a tear or two along with Willow as Secrets takes you on a journey that begins with an independent young woman trying her best to hide the truth, and ends with a pivotal event that turns her world upside down, forcing all of her secrets to come to light.
Now I just need to get this first book published! The other books continue her journey, and they kind of changed my life. Writing these novels has given me focus and direction that I lacked before. Now I'm working (very slowly working) on a totally different mainstream novel that is very loosely based on my high school and people I knew back then. It's still in the beginning stages, but I have high hopes for it. It's about a group of friends who went through school together and reunite when they are 30, only to discover that they don't really know each other anymore, and maybe they didn't really know each other in the past either. Mysterious...? | |
| | | The Poet Jonah Wooderson
Posts : 418 Join date : 2011-10-24 Age : 33 Location : Chattanooga, the cousin nobody invites to the family reunion
| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:41 am | |
| [A Letter to Disappointment] My shy small eyes Die With my heart And our crippled children,
Like ditches filled with Spirits of green They wait beneath the bridge, The bridge That holds your Impatient parade, That hangs above Tomorrow’s dreams.
I've become the sigh That dances in your throat; The distance between you and God, Just another reason Why you’re mad all the time, Just another reason Why you feel unimportant.
Now the music from All our moments Is darker than The sprawling night, It’s all I've ever cherished: Loving you.
It’s all I've ever cherished: Loving you And how it kills me.
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| | | IrishNameAndAnInjury The Navesink Banks
Posts : 13514 Join date : 2011-09-16 Age : 41 Location : Spokane Valley, WA
| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:30 pm | |
| ^Saddest poem ever, but very well written, as always. Knowing the story behind this one (from the romance issues thread) makes it that much more real and heartbreaking. The third stanza is the most moving to me, especially the first three lines. "I've become the sigh That dances in your throat; The distance between you and God"
Reading those words kind of ripped my heart out. I feel for you, Cody. | |
| | | The Poet Jonah Wooderson
Posts : 418 Join date : 2011-10-24 Age : 33 Location : Chattanooga, the cousin nobody invites to the family reunion
| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:22 pm | |
| I edited the poem above, Irish. this is it. by the end of tomorrow my book will be published and for sale on amazon.
[A Letter to Stella] All my ghosts Are soldered To my despair, Growing cold And dying Within my heart.
They stay dimly lit At the front of my eyes, Glowing in their pity Along with Our crippled children And the ending To all our mornings.
It’s all I've ever cherished: Loving you.
Like ditches filled with Spirits of green Our apostled yearnings Wait beneath the bridge, The bridge That holds your Impatient parade, That hangs above Tomorrow’s dreams.
I've become the sigh That dances in your throat; The distance Between you and God, Just another reason Why you’re mad all the time, Just another reason Why you feel Unimportant.
Now the music from All our moments Is darker than The sprawling night, And our love is panting In the begging of the Summer’s bearing, Telling everyone How disappointed You are in me.
It’s all I've ever cherished: Loving you And how it kills me.
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| | | TGAforLIFE The Navesink Banks
Posts : 1919 Join date : 2012-02-25 Age : 40 Location : Washington State, U.S.A.
| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:30 pm | |
| Wow... that is Beautifully written.
Incredibly sad...but just so elegant. Well done lad. | |
| | | Philo Wooderson
Posts : 389 Join date : 2010-06-29 Age : 31 Location : An Móinéar
| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:17 pm | |
| Just something I wrote up after a night taking about good times with friends. Let me know what yous think
RnF
O, take me back to the land I love the most Brazen rugged hills sweeping down to her white wizened coast Blue eye skies and deep ocean loughs Forests pretty green and bare sun bathing rocks
O, take me back to the land of which I speak Where We lived for lifetimes, but I lost a week If You had ever made The Fall, I would have made The Catch We knew not of the future nor the past. We lived in the moment. We knew life goes fast.
O, take me home to the land I hold within my heart Some say 'Never go back.' But I knew it from the start, that this land would win me over. Now I have it in my bones Perhaps I'm three years too late, but I know I'm not alone
O, take me home to the land I loved the best Feel that sea breeze. I can see our college, I can see 'The Nest' We cared not for tomorrow. We all each shared Our lights We lived each hour carelessly, living for the day and for the night
O, take me back to the land I'll forever adore Ever since I seen it first, ever since I passed through this door I feel something special walking upon this road. First sight upon 'The Steps,' in this light they're so inviting, lets sit and watch the sun set
O, take me back to the land I loved so well Memory tries to remake that special feeling, already I sense that rich turf burnt smell A world away from the world, where nothing ever happens yet nothing is ever still A world hard done by words. Seeing is believing, eyes describe better than the quill
O, take me home. | |
| | | IrishNameAndAnInjury The Navesink Banks
Posts : 13514 Join date : 2011-09-16 Age : 41 Location : Spokane Valley, WA
| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:35 pm | |
| Philo, that was beautiful! Your descriptions were so vivid and peaceful, and I found myself smiling as I read, especially the lines: O take me back to the land I love the most Brazen rugged hills sweeping down to her white wizened coastAnd O take me back to the land I loved so well Memory tries to remake that special feeling, already I sense that rich turf burnt smell
That's how I feel about California. Some places just imprint themselves upon our lives in a way that stays with us forever. Very well done, Philo. I love it! | |
| | | JimmyB The Navesink Banks
Posts : 5619 Join date : 2010-10-27 Age : 32 Location : Pennsylvania-The land of the Three Rivers.
| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:26 pm | |
| - Harbortown wrote:
- JimmyB wrote:
- I've lost my wishes, and given up on hope
On the last rung and last inch of rope. You stole my heart out, and and threw it to The moon The sins of my father shapes my life.
So Just dry your eyes And quit singing all your lies Leave me now For I am finished with this pain.
Dry your soul less eyes for you Janey, you always lied. I'm gonna go ahead and scrutinize this a little bit, I hope you don't mind. Why am I going to go ahead and scrutinize it? Because the first two lines are fantastic. I learned in songwriting that the most important line of the song is the first line, that's usually what reels people in. I'm having one of those "Why didn't I write that?"-moments.
So it starts out great and then it kinda takes a weird turn. I'd change stole to took/ripped, or keep the stole and just take out the out. To me it just seems to flow better that way. Also, that line doesn't rhyme with the next one. Which, normally, would be fine, but a lot of other lines do so when you suddenly decide to not do that it's just awkward. You could go for a soft rhyme if you can't think of anything. If you don't know what that is, it's words that don't exactly rhyme but sound similar. Like shine and lime, as opposed to hope and rope which is a hard rhyme.
Also, that line about your father seems very much out of place. I'm sure you've got an explanation behind it but unless you're writing psychedelic Bob Dylan lyrics the listener shouldn't have to guess too much. Now I'm not saying all lyrics have to be 100% crystal clear, they just have to fit. Now it's like you go from one thing to another way too rapidly. Don't put too many stories into one song.
Furthermore I'm not quite sure why you added those last two lines. They seem like a continuation of the chorus, but they're apart from the chorus.
Halfway through writing all this shit I realized it's a stupid idea because you never bother reading anything anyone reads anyway, but, yeah. Fucking read it, kid. You got potential. The last few parts were things that had popped into my mind during the day, and I wrote them down so I would not forget them. I want to work them into the song somehow, but I have yet to find a place for them. Thinking about it....I may keep those last two lines seprate, as a way to end the song...I mean like those being the last thing sung while the music fades out. | |
| | | JimmyB The Navesink Banks
Posts : 5619 Join date : 2010-10-27 Age : 32 Location : Pennsylvania-The land of the Three Rivers.
| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:11 pm | |
| I've lost my wishes, and given up on hope On the last rung and last inch of rope. You ripped my heart out, and and threw it to The moon You left my fate doomed
So Just dry your eyes And quit singing all your lies Leave me now For I am finished with this pain.
You would always Say keep your mind open and your heart free But I knew this would never be. How you lied with every word you would say Yet I missed you when you left my life, yeah I missed you when you left my life
So Just Dry your eyes And give me back my heart Or at least a little part Let me live again, and not have to deal This pain I always feel
Now I thought you tonight, first time in awhile With something Like a smile Where are you tonight, My janey Have The broken hearts finally caught up to you? like they are supposed to.
So Just dry your eyes And quit singing all your lies Leave me now For I am finished with this pain. Now the tears come down, something like the rain Now the tears come down honey something like the rain
Dry your soulless eyes for you Janey, you always lied.(Repeated over until fade)
Last edited by JimmyB on Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:28 pm; edited 1 time in total | |
| | | Philo Wooderson
Posts : 389 Join date : 2010-06-29 Age : 31 Location : An Móinéar
| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:09 pm | |
| - IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:
- Philo, that was beautiful! Your descriptions were so vivid and peaceful, and I found myself smiling as I read, especially the lines:
O take me back to the land I love the most Brazen rugged hills sweeping down to her white wizened coast
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O take me back to the land I loved so well Memory tries to remake that special feeling, already I sense that rich turf burnt smell
That's how I feel about California. Some places just imprint themselves upon our lives in a way that stays with us forever. Very well done, Philo. I love it! Thanks Its just a simple poem about a time and a place where I really felt alive I guess. Its about my favourite place in the world (Rann na Feirst, Co. Donegal, Ireland) and its just how much of an effect its had on me | |
| | | JimmyB The Navesink Banks
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| Subject: Re: Creative Writing [was: Poetry & Lyrics] Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:30 am | |
| I think I finally have a finished version of it. I think I am going to call it-soulless eyes. | |
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