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Just a few comments to add.

<Mae> reminds me of the <The Trouble With River Cities> by Pela, a song Brian mentionned as being one of his favorites.

<Mullhond Drive> ends with the same riff as <Orphans> from American Slang. That riff haunted me for the whole week till I finally remembered where it was from!

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To be fair, some of the lyrics on Elsie are really harsh on women. Depending on the severity of the break-up I think every guy has those thoughts, but expressing them in such blunt terms is pretty ballsy. Not exactly politically correct.

I don't want to drag this too far off topic, but it's obvious he's singing about being hurt, not about being a stalker or hating women. The reviewer takes it WAY too far and makes a laughable review. I found it, it's http://www.americansongwriter.com/2011/09/the-horrible-crowes-elsie/
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Kropotkin wrote:
Just a few comments to add.


<Mullhond Drive> ends with the same riff as <Orphans> from American Slang. That riff haunted me for the whole week till I finally remembered where it was from!

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Omg it is. I never noticed that.
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snakester wrote:
JackStreetcar wrote:
To be fair, some of the lyrics on Elsie are really harsh on women. Depending on the severity of the break-up I think every guy has those thoughts, but expressing them in such blunt terms is pretty ballsy. Not exactly politically correct.

I don't want to drag this too far off topic, but it's obvious he's singing about being hurt, not about being a stalker or hating women. The reviewer takes it WAY too far and makes a laughable review. I found it, it's http://www.americansongwriter.com/2011/09/the-horrible-crowes-elsie/

No, I know. Believe me, I'm feeling all the Elsie emotions as we speak. It's just Blood Loss's chorus that, to me, is brutally harsh. I mean, not that it's a bad thing, but it's simply vicious.
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snakester wrote:
Kropotkin wrote:
Just a few comments to add.


<Mullhond Drive> ends with the same riff as <Orphans> from American Slang. That riff haunted me for the whole week till I finally remembered where it was from!

;-)

kropotkin

Omg it is. I never noticed that.

It haunted me for a week! I thought at first a tune from the 59' sound ... but finally I figured it out ;-)

I love the way they recycle the old with the new ...

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The Trouble With River Cities - Pela

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_KEuJ1Uqe8

And then listen to Mae ... same style ... ??? no?
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Truthfully, I don't think it's the lyrics in and of itself that's causing these opinions; I think it's more related to the over-abundance of his lyrics. When nearly every song on every album has the same lyrical theme, it can be smothering, which is what I see influencing some of these negative perceptions. If the same lyrics were followed by songs whose lyrical content was different, I bet those same lyrics would not pose a problem. I personally hope Brian's songwriting becomes more diverse and hopefully Keepsake (which is amazing!) is an indicator that he will continue to branch out/implement other topics/subjects into his lyrics.
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Truthfully, I don't think it's the lyrics in and of itself that's causing these opinions; I think it's more related to the over-abundance of his lyrics. When nearly every song on every album has the same lyrical theme, it can be smothering, which is what I see influencing some of these negative perceptions. If the same lyrics were followed by songs whose lyrical content was different, I bet those same lyrics would not pose a problem. I personally hope Brian's songwriting becomes more diverse and hopefully Keepsake (which is amazing!) is an indicator that he will continue to branch out/implement other topics/subjects into his lyrics.

Even Keepsake is still a song about abandonment and lost love, it's just directed at an absentee father, rather than a lover. This album is interesting in that it's a major label debut, but in many ways, it's also a transition album for them rather than (in my opinion) their absolute best fastball.
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JackStreetcar wrote:
It's just Blood Loss's chorus that, to me, is brutally harsh. I mean, not that it's a bad thing, but it's simply vicious.
I always thought that part was from the perspective of Brian's "first love/arsonist/murderer." Because the first chorus starts with him saying "boy, I'll tell you when it's over" and ends with "...for you to be truly haunted (baby by me)." So I don't know if Brian's really being all that harsh there.

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I never get why people take Pitchfork reviews so seriously.
I just didn't like the thing about the reviewer saying Brian was humorless. After all, humor in songwriting is a pretty bad idea. I love the Bouncing Souls to death, but I think they would be better if they didn't have songs like "Badass" weighing down some of their albums. So it tends to bother me when reviewers call songwriters humorless. It's obvious to anyone who goes to a Gaslight show that none of them are actually humorless, they just choose to write music with meaning instead of fluff.
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I think songs can have humor and meaning. Those aren't exclusive things.
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I don't want to drag this too far off topic, but it's obvious he's singing about being hurt, not about being a stalker or hating women. The reviewer takes it WAY too far and makes a laughable review. I found it, it's http://www.americansongwriter.com/2011/09/the-horrible-crowes-elsie/

Haha wow I came insanely close with my parody review and I've never even read that review.

My parody:

eagles1139 wrote:
I'd love to see that guy review Elsie.

Fallon fills the album with nonsensical bragging about his fashion choices ("I've been known to wear a fine black suit and a murder of tie"), egomania bordering on stalkerism ("Nobody knows you like I do!"), and in "Blood Loss", misogynistic anger bordering on violent threat ("I'll tell you when it's over, I'll tell you when you can leave"), finishing the chorus with an image of a past lover hanging in his hallway while he drinks her blood. Real "nice-guy" we're dealing with.

Actual review:

But any sympathy he might have earned is lost on the stalker-rific “Sugar” (“Nobody knows you like I do”) and the spectacularly creepy “Mary Ann” (“Put your tiny hands inside my hands… Jesus gonna be here soon”).
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simo wrote:
I think songs can have humor and meaning. Those aren't exclusive things.
Yeah I guess that's true. I don't know what it is that bothers me about it then, maybe I'm just getting fed up with music reviews in general, haha.
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But any sympathy he might have earned is lost on the stalker-rific “Sugar” (“Nobody knows you like I do”) and the spectacularly creepy “Mary Ann” (“Put your tiny hands inside my hands… Jesus gonna be here soon”).

There's no question Elsie is a dark, dark record. He's singing about hatred towards someone who broke his heart. It's honest, and very direct, and often times hurts your heart to listen to it. That's what I think makes it so brilliant. (And I don't think Sugar is "stalker-rific" - it's the pre-breakup "please don't leave, I love you" song. But she does leave, and he becomes the hurricane.) The album has a very clear story it's telling, through the stages of a particularly bad breakup.

Now, to get back on topic: Handwritten doesn't seem to have the same narrative flow from one track to another, so I can see why some reviewers see it as humorless or repetitive.
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NME's review was posted online today and gave the record 8/10

http://www.nme.com/reviews/the-gaslight-anthem--2/13489
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I really enjoyed this review (NME). Couple things:

1) I don't think I want to know what's happening in Brian's balls, haha. He can keep that to himself.
2) the emo thing is true and very funny. But I love that line anyway.
3) "endearingly butch slushiness" about Biloxi Parish, that whole part was great.
4) lol at this "a city currently clawing back its musical heritage from the fists of Taylor Swift and her ilk"
5) I really like this. Finally some credit where credit's due. "Yet despite his continued, gracious nods to a host of musical grandmasters, on ‘Handwritten’ Brian Fallon’s showing more of his true self than ever before."
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One thing: when does Brian quote Bruce on this album? I don't recall that at all...
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One thing: when does Brian quote Bruce on this album? I don't recall that at all...

That could be a reference to "the way your dress would wave" line in Howl.
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Shrewsbury_Stars wrote:
JackStreetcar wrote:
One thing: when does Brian quote Bruce on this album? I don't recall that at all...

That could be a reference to "the way your dress would wave" line in Howl.

In the article it kinda sounds like he's referring to a reference in Mullholland (i don't see one).

With the Thunder Road "references" in Howl, I still feel like those are subtle enough not to consider it quoting Springsteen.
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Kropotkin wrote:
Just a few comments to add.

<Mae> reminds me of the <The Trouble With River Cities> by Pela, a song Brian mentionned as being one of his favorites.

<Mullhond Drive> ends with the same riff as <Orphans> from American Slang. That riff haunted me for the whole week till I finally remembered where it was from!

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yeah they are quite similar. Mullholand's is a little fast with more hammering I think.
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StitchesOnTheRadio wrote:
Shrewsbury_Stars wrote:
JackStreetcar wrote:
One thing: when does Brian quote Bruce on this album? I don't recall that at all...

That could be a reference to "the way your dress would wave" line in Howl.

In the article it kinda sounds like he's referring to a reference in Mullholland (i don't see one).

With the Thunder Road "references" in Howl, I still feel like those are subtle enough not to consider it quoting Springsteen.

I don't know enough Springsteen to RULE OUT references in songs like Mulholland, etc. (I'll leave that to the expert) - didn't someone say the "We took it all and then we threw it away" in Biloxi was either a strong direct reference or a rip of "The Promise"?
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<Mae> reminds me of the <The Trouble With River Cities> by Pela, a song Brian mentionned as being one of his favorites.
I could see/hear that. I absolutely love Pela, good to hear Brian's a fan. Mae is heartbreaking in a similar vein too.
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The August 16 Rolling Stone lists the song Handwritten as it's #2 pick for this week's playlist.

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The title track of the Jersey crew's great new disc is a headlong rush of crisp chords and shout-along hooks. "Pull it out, turn it up, what's your favorite song?" hollers frontman Brian Fallon. This week, it might totally be this one!"

(i don't know if the last line is tongue in cheek or what...)
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Interesting:

http://musicgetsmeby.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/the-handwritten-project/
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Shrewsbury_Stars wrote:
Interesting:

http://musicgetsmeby.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/the-handwritten-project/

That's really cool. It's too bad they didn't collect even more.
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oops, i was asked to do this but was out of the state at the time and forgot about it. very cool though.
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