Pre Show Packages

jdc wrote:

enola wrote:

Re rejoining the queue: Am I the only one who believes that the people queuing will let you join where you left? Like if you leave to get food or something like that. That's at least the experience I made with several bands/fans.

For which cities/bands?

Mainland Europe, UK
and for any band I am queuing for incl. Gaslight people held my spot when I went to get food or drinks

enola wrote:

jdc wrote:

enola wrote:

Re rejoining the queue: Am I the only one who believes that the people queuing will let you join where you left? Like if you leave to get food or something like that. That's at least the experience I made with several bands/fans.

For which cities/bands?

Mainland Euope, UK
and for any band I am queuing for incl. Gaslight people held my spot when I went to get food or drinks

Clearly Europeans are nicer than Americans because I cannot see that happening here   . Maybe once and awhile if you're lucky, but certainly not counting on it. And not if it's you plus 5 or so friends all going and coming back! I'll probably buy this for PNC for that reason (although I'd rather not do it for that show) or if I do one of the other shows it'll only be if I have a friend not doing it who will be in line.

Unfortunately, with or without early entry, you still run into issues, but without is still better.

And for those still complaining about the camera, if you consider that it's that or no pictures at all, do you still have an issue with it? Back in the day, I remember using these cameras a lot, and no they're not HD, and you can't post the photos right to your instagram, but it's not the end of the world! If you want, forget it exists, and live in the moment Personally, I'm looking forward to taking it to CVS and holding real live photos in my hand again. I actually miss that.

My 50 cents ... to whoever cares.

Yes the boys have listened .. but is this a good thing? I think not necessarily ... I - personally - think that a band's decisions should not be dictated by the fans. I think that there also may be a chance that the fanbase was misrepresented ... what if those not liking the package were just faster & more dominant in voicing their opinion? Has anyone considered that? Just throwing that out there ...

I spent a lot of time reading all the comments on various media. And AFTER the package was taken down there were a lot of posts from people who actually liked the package. So just saying "they have listened to the fans" is not correct in my opinion - they have listenend to a certain portion of the fanbase (however big that portion was will forever be a mystery). I am fine with whatever decision Gaslight make but I just wanted to point that out.

I also prefer being at the front and have been to a lot of Gaslight concerts too ... sure would it suck NOT to be able to get front row for EVERY gig I planned to attend w/o paying but do ppl who can afford it deserve it less to be up front? I dont think so ... some might be no real fans ... yeah ... but some would have also been die hard fans who would have appreciated the package INCLUDING early entrance. I admit me being one of them. I still think for all the things that were included it was good value for money (compared to other bands who charge eg USD 350 for a simple 1 band member photo op).

So now the people who liked the package are complaining that the early entrance is gone - and people who didnt like the package are saying: "Well you dont have to buy it if you dont like it" ... I remember that it was exactly the other way around just a few days ago. So who is wrong and who is right? Is it fair that the fans who pay more join the back of the queue just cause they paid more and went to he soundcheck? There are always two sides. And that is NOT a question of being a "real" fan or not.

Also those people coming up with the sellout comments & that the band has changed for the worse  & that it is time to turn away from the band (you have loved for years). I was really astouned by some hurtful and agressive comments on that matter by longtime fans. I think we all should look in the mirror and ask ourselves how the often hurtful & inconsiderate comments the last few days might have reflected on us as a fanbase ... WHO actually turned for the worse is always a question of perspective. I am not saying one cant critizise & voice their opinion ... just sayin be respectful & dont take your opinion granted for being the only right one.

As for the freebie fanclub discussion ... I am also a day one member of the Gaslight fanclub & am also following other bands ... my experience is that there are a lot of bands that do waaaaay less for their fans in terms of fanclub goodies. Are there still things that could be better? Could there be more freebies? Sure ... but they are trying ... its no done overnight ... they are not obligated to offer freebies just other bands do. There are also bands who dont even have fanclubs (even big bands). For me - personally - just the presale option is enough for the annual fanclub fee.

Alright --- as I said there is no wrong or right --- so I will finish this up as I could continue endlessly. Hope noone will "jump" on me for this ... just wanted to share my opinion.

Regards,
Daniela

As someone said earlier, I don't think it's possible to satisfy the entire fanbase, so either way they decided to do or not do this, there's going to be people who love/hate it. I'm surprised with how quickly they re-introduced this, but I'm definitely interested to see how it goes.


Personally, I think for the price you're paying, it would have been really nice if people who showed up for the soundcheck were able to just stay in the venue for the rest of the show, have some drinks, and hang out between sets. Mainly because that's what I would like to do lol. But I agree, it would be really shitty if someone showed up however early for the pre-show, waited to get in for that, then came out and had to move to the back of whatever line had formed during the sound check.... though you'd think you could just talk to whoever was ahead/behind you at the time (obviously someone who wasn't going to the pre-show) and ask if they'd let you back in line afterward? I'm sure that depends on how nice people are. It would be sweet to get your items at the merch booth, then run to your car for a drop-off, then get back in line, so I'm stoked for the potential to do that.

I remember seeing Gaslight for the first time in NJ and guys were trying to rip people from the front rows and push them back. A couple times fights were breaking out and people were getting crushed. So I honestly don't care about putting up a fight to be up front for the main show, but other people must have different experiences with it. I'm really excited for the vibe of the pre-show. I think in a lot of areas, especially smaller cities where Gaslight doesn't have as huge a following, that these shows will mainly be hardcore fans in an intimate setting, hearing mostly older tracks and maybe a few surprise covers or something. That's my hope anyway.

I do think the camera thing seems sort of weird though, mainly because in that setting wouldn't they prefer people take photos without flash (like using their phones)? Hopefully a fan in the photo pit won't annoy any professional photographers either lol!

And this is this only available to 45 club members right? I hope so... The discount for multiple packages is great, but am I a little jaded in thinking that the discount could end up being more of an incentive for people to buy a lot and sell them off later for a profit? It was just my first thought upon seeing the discount. Though I understand it's great if you're going with a group of friends. I don't have friends.

I got PNC as well. Will be fun to try out and no worries about lining up since it's assigned seating anyway.

I agree with most everyone else. If people want to pay for it they will. What you shouldn't expect though is a chance to hang with the band.

Some people they get the impression that you'll have this great interaction with the band when really you'll be shuffled in, watch the sound check and shuffled back out. Just a word to the wise.

If you want the personal interaction you're better off stalking the bus after the show.

Show ticket isn't included in the package obviously right?

mja271 wrote:

Show ticket isn't included in the package obviously right?

No, you have to buy the regular ticket separately.

"Here is what we’ve come up with—the 'new & improved' GASLIGHT PRE-SHOW PACKAGE costing $95 and including the following (show tickets must be bought separately):"

to people who worry about the line outside, you will have just seen the band soundcheck at close quarters, plus you could win that "photo pit" pass which would be pretty awesome!!!

Also does anyone know how many people are allowed in to these pre-shows? does it matter the size of the venue? my only worry is its a sell out and I'm stuck at the back not being able to see much

Hasler09 wrote:

to people who worry about the line outside, you will have just seen the band soundcheck at close quarters, plus you could win that "photo pit" pass which would be pretty awesome!!!

If you win, do you get to use the disposable camera? I'd love to use my SLR. LOL.

2 bought for Nashville....wonder when we'll get the details for arrival time, etc...

Any other Minneapolis buyers out there?

First time poster, long time fan.

Curious, how many people typically line up all day for the shows. Is it over a hundred ? If you did go to the sound check and then went back out into the line I would think you'd still get 2nd or 3rd from the rail. Personally I wish they would have kept the early entry so I could hang out and have a couple of beers. Either way it will be a cool experience. I once got to go Rancid's soundcheck and it was great.

Ps hoping they offer foundation room access for Fan club at the boston show before and after. That would be a cool compromise for the folks that weren't concerned about getting the rail

I think the number of people lining up depends very much from the country. Typically in England and Germany seems to be the most - speaking only for Europe....

PS What is a foundation room?

azlisa wrote:

Hasler09 wrote:

to people who worry about the line outside, you will have just seen the band soundcheck at close quarters, plus you could win that "photo pit" pass which would be pretty awesome!!!

If you win, do you get to use the disposable camera? I'd love to use my SLR. LOL.

I would kind of hope you could use your own camera in the pit ! lol how bad would your pictures be on a disposable camera!

Hasler09 wrote:

Also does anyone know how many people are allowed in to these pre-shows? does it matter the size of the venue? my only worry is its a sell out and I'm stuck at the back not being able to see much

I heard it was 200/show. I'm not sure if it changes for different venues, but I don't believe it does.
That actually seems like a lot if they all sell.

enola wrote:

CapedAvenger wrote:

Maybe i'm being stupid here, but how do people who buy this package get in to hear the soundcheck, without getting early entry?

Do they get booted out and rejoin the queue?

EDIT - OK, i've read this now

enola wrote:

*All physical items will be given out at the pre-show Soundcheck performance.  After the pre-show Soundcheck hang out is over, all Pre-Show Package holders will be escorted out of the venue to join all other fans.

This seems to address many of the issues people were voicing over the pre-show packages v1.0.

Again, as i did first time around, i applaud them for trying this. Don't like it? Don't buy it.

Re rejoining the queue: Am I the only one who believes that the people queuing will let you join where you left? Like if you leave to get food or something like that. That's at least the experience I made with several bands/fans.

That's what concerns me. If I'm in the front twenty before the sound heck there's no guaranteed ppl let me in after it again...

Jerseyrain wrote:

enola wrote:

CapedAvenger wrote:

Maybe i'm being stupid here, but how do people who buy this package get in to hear the soundcheck, without getting early entry?

Do they get booted out and rejoin the queue?

EDIT - OK, i've read this now

enola wrote:

*All physical items will be given out at the pre-show Soundcheck performance.  After the pre-show Soundcheck hang out is over, all Pre-Show Package holders will be escorted out of the venue to join all other fans.

This seems to address many of the issues people were voicing over the pre-show packages v1.0.

Again, as i did first time around, i applaud them for trying this. Don't like it? Don't buy it.

Re rejoining the queue: Am I the only one who believes that the people queuing will let you join where you left? Like if you leave to get food or something like that. That's at least the experience I made with several bands/fans.

That's what concerns me. If I'm in the front twenty before the sound heck there's no guaranteed ppl let me in after it again...

Make friends with the people around you in line. Don't be a boob, explain the situation politley and they'll gladly let you in Gaslight friends are kind.

jwhjr wrote:

Any other Minneapolis buyers out there?

Just saw this! I was considering it, the past two Gaslight shows I saw were in Minneapolis, but I really didn't care for the First Avenue show (for a variety of reasons), and I noticed that's where they're playing again, so I'm going to go south and check out something different.

I bet the pre-shows will definitely sell for that show though! Minneapolis has some great Gaslight fans

CutToRibbons wrote:

jwhjr wrote:

Any other Minneapolis buyers out there?

Just saw this! I was considering it, the past two Gaslight shows I saw were in Minneapolis, but I really didn't care for the First Avenue show (for a variety of reasons), and I noticed that's where they're playing again, so I'm going to go south and check out something different.

I bet the pre-shows will definitely sell for that show though! Minneapolis has some great Gaslight fans

Ive got tix for the show but am undecided about the preshow as of yet...

dlbia wrote:

CutToRibbons wrote:

jwhjr wrote:

Any other Minneapolis buyers out there?

Just saw this! I was considering it, the past two Gaslight shows I saw were in Minneapolis, but I really didn't care for the First Avenue show (for a variety of reasons), and I noticed that's where they're playing again, so I'm going to go south and check out something different.

I bet the pre-shows will definitely sell for that show though! Minneapolis has some great Gaslight fans

Ive got tix for the show but am undecided about the preshow as of yet...

Yeah, same. I've decided that I'm going to wait and kinda see what the feedback on the pre-show stuff is after the first few shows.

I also feel that it would be kind of cool, yet awkward if they had the potential to sell 200 of these tickets a show, and at some venues only ended up with like 10 people buying them. Not that I want to go to a sold out pre-show, but I'm thinking 30ish people would be the sweet spot.

Jerseyrain wrote:

enola wrote:

CapedAvenger wrote:

Maybe i'm being stupid here, but how do people who buy this package get in to hear the soundcheck, without getting early entry?

Do they get booted out and rejoin the queue?

EDIT - OK, i've read this now

enola wrote:

*All physical items will be given out at the pre-show Soundcheck performance.  After the pre-show Soundcheck hang out is over, all Pre-Show Package holders will be escorted out of the venue to join all other fans.

This seems to address many of the issues people were voicing over the pre-show packages v1.0.

Again, as i did first time around, i applaud them for trying this. Don't like it? Don't buy it.

Re rejoining the queue: Am I the only one who believes that the people queuing will let you join where you left? Like if you leave to get food or something like that. That's at least the experience I made with several bands/fans.

That's what concerns me. If I'm in the front twenty before the sound heck there's no guaranteed ppl let me in after it again...

Think it might depend on how long people are gone for.If it starts getting over 1hr and people are queuing outside in the rain etc then people might not be to keen to let you back in.
Also how long have you been in the queue before you fire off to the pre show.Imagine someone joining the the queue for 30 mins then going to the pre show coming back a hour and half later and wanting to rejoin where they left.

luckyman wrote:

Jerseyrain wrote:

enola wrote:

CapedAvenger wrote:

Maybe i'm being stupid here, but how do people who buy this package get in to hear the soundcheck, without getting early entry?

Do they get booted out and rejoin the queue?

EDIT - OK, i've read this now

enola wrote:

*All physical items will be given out at the pre-show Soundcheck performance.  After the pre-show Soundcheck hang out is over, all Pre-Show Package holders will be escorted out of the venue to join all other fans.

This seems to address many of the issues people were voicing over the pre-show packages v1.0.

Again, as i did first time around, i applaud them for trying this. Don't like it? Don't buy it.

Re rejoining the queue: Am I the only one who believes that the people queuing will let you join where you left? Like if you leave to get food or something like that. That's at least the experience I made with several bands/fans.

That's what concerns me. If I'm in the front twenty before the sound heck there's no guaranteed ppl let me in after it again...

Think it might depend on how long people are gone for.If it starts getting over 1hr and people are queuing outside in the rain etc then people might not be to keen to let you back in.
Also how long have you been in the queue before you fire off to the pre show.Imagine someone joining the the queue for 30 mins then going to the pre show coming back a hour and half later and wanting to rejoin where they left.

You also have to consider, we're not talking about 1-2 people rejoining the line, we're talking about probably anywhere from 10 to like 100. And while it may work for a few people, I could see arguments starting as well. And what if you're the back of like a 10 person long line when it's time to go in, and when you come out, there's another 100 people there. How do you convince person #11 that you were there before they arrived? No one is gonna like seeing the line suddenly multiply ahead of them.

Sound check is tricky timing. In my experience, whenever it's started, there's been less than 20 people in line, but by the time it's over, that number has changed dramatically.

I may try and do a pre-show on a day my friends aren't and vice versa, just so that someone can save the spot.

I think there are a lot of different factors to consider, and I think it will depend on the different venues, and how they handle these sorts of things. And just like regular shows, some will probably depend on the attitude of the fans, as well as the guys in the band.

Some questions would be exactly how long before the actual show will these sound checks be, and how long will the sound check last? 4-5 songs?

As far as the lining up situation, another thought I had: if for some venues there's 100-200 people showing up to see the sound check and it's within a couple hours of door time(?).... wouldn't they have a separate queuing area so it doesn't get confusing when it's time to let people in for the sound check? In that case there'd be no saving spots.