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Paid £1350 for my first year of insurance. That's about as cheap as you could get for a 17yr old.

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

What's road tax? In VA we have to pay personal property tax on cars and mine is about $100 a year. I hate when that bill comes!

It's a tax on the vehicle emissions, essentially. If you've got a smaller more economical car you won't pay as much.

Camus wrote:

Paid £1350 for my first year of insurance. That's about as cheap as you could get for a 17yr old.

Haha, that sounds insanely exoensive to me! I was on my parents' insurance from the time I was 15-22, and I only paid about $200 a year at the most. It was great! Sigh...finances were so much easier back then.

I hate driving haha

Camus wrote:

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

What's road tax? In VA we have to pay personal property tax on cars and mine is about $100 a year. I hate when that bill comes!

It's a tax on the vehicle emissions, essentially. If you've got a smaller more economical car you won't pay as much.

Oh, okay. In VA we have the personal property tax, our vehicles have to be inspected each year to make sure they are safe to be driven on the road, plus tags/registration, so the extras add up to around $200/year for me. Stupid government is trying to bleed me dry!

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

Camus wrote:

Paid £1350 for my first year of insurance. That's about as cheap as you could get for a 17yr old.

Haha, that sounds insanely exoensive to me! I was on my parents' insurance from the time I was 15-22, and I only paid about $200 a year at the most. It was great! Sigh...finances were so much easier back then.

My parents' attitude was basically that if I wanted to drive I paid for it myself. Paid for lessons, the car and most of the insurance, and then they helped out a little bit at the end. That was when I actually had money.

HorribleCrowe wrote:

I hate driving haha

I absolutely LOVE driving, I just hate how much it costs to drive, haha!

Camus wrote:

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

Camus wrote:

Paid £1350 for my first year of insurance. That's about as cheap as you could get for a 17yr old.

Haha, that sounds insanely exoensive to me! I was on my parents' insurance from the time I was 15-22, and I only paid about $200 a year at the most. It was great! Sigh...finances were so much easier back then.

My parent's attitude was basically that if I wanted to drive I paid for it myself. Paid for lessons, the car and most of the insurance, and then they helped out a little bit at the end. That was when I actually had money.

I paid my portion of the insurance, but it was so minimal, it didn't really affect me. As far as lessons go, we had drivers training in school and it only cost $25, so that was cool. And until I bought my Mustang when I was 22, I drive my dad's old Camry, so I was pretty lucky on the financial front back then. I have always loved driving though. I got my license on my 16th birthday, the first second I could.

Sounds like you didn't have to fork out too much to get started on driving. It's always good when things work out that way.

Camus wrote:

Sounds like you didn't have to fork out too much to get started on driving. It's always good when things work out that way.

Yeah, back then it wasn't bad, I'm not sure how it is now though. I started driving in 1997! A lot of it depends on the state though. I know insurance in CA is insanely expensive for some people, it just depends on the circumstances.

You start learning so early! I guess it's a bit easier to learn if everyone is driving an automatic, right?

Okay, it's official. I hate summer more than anything! It's 9:30 a.m. and the heat index is already 92 degrees. I will never understand people who live around here and love summertime.

Camus wrote:

You start learning so early! I guess it's a bit easier to learn if everyone is driving an automatic, right?

Definitely! I have never driven a car with a manual transmission and I never will. I want to just put the car in drive and GO!

Each state has different rules, but in VA kids can take a written test and get their learner's permit when they turn 15, which means they can drive with an adult in the car, but not on their own. Once you turn 16 and have completed a driver's training course and passed the test, then you can get your license. Getting my driver's license and finally having the freedom to go anywhere I wanted was one of the best days of my life. I had been waiting to drive since I was a toddler!

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

Okay, it's official. I hate summer more than anything! It's 9:30 a.m. and the heat index is already 92 degrees. I will never understand people who live around here and love summertime.

The heat index (I think I found a website that calculates it properly, we usually just go on temperatue ) is about 50 degrees. I'm almost cold. You need to move somewhere slightly cooler!

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

Camus wrote:

You start learning so early! I guess it's a bit easier to learn if everyone is driving an automatic, right?

Definitely! I have never driven a car with a manual transmission and I never will. I want to just put the car in drive and GO!

Each state has different rules, but in VA kids can take a written test and get their learner's permit when they turn 15, which means they can drive with an adult in the car, but not on their own. Once you turn 16 and have completed a driver's training course and passed the test, then you can get your license. Getting my driver's license and finally having the freedom to go anywhere I wanted was one of the best days of my life. I had been waiting to drive since I was a toddler!

You won't understand how much better it is until you've driven a manual!

Camus wrote:

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

Okay, it's official. I hate summer more than anything! It's 9:30 a.m. and the heat index is already 92 degrees. I will never understand people who live around here and love summertime.

The heat index (I think I found a website that calculates it properly, we usually just go on temperatue ) is about 50 degrees. I'm almost cold. You need to move somewhere slightly cooler!

Normally we just go by the actual temperature too, but in the summer it's so humid here, that it can easily feel 10-15 degrees hotter than it actually is. Like yesterday it was about 96 degrees, but the heat index was 110, so that's what it felt like when you stepped outside. Today is supposed to be worse.

I would do almost anything for 50 degree weather right now! That would be WONDERFUL! Wanna trade?

Camus wrote:

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

Camus wrote:

You start learning so early! I guess it's a bit easier to learn if everyone is driving an automatic, right?

Definitely! I have never driven a car with a manual transmission and I never will. I want to just put the car in drive and GO!

Each state has different rules, but in VA kids can take a written test and get their learner's permit when they turn 15, which means they can drive with an adult in the car, but not on their own. Once you turn 16 and have completed a driver's training course and passed the test, then you can get your license. Getting my driver's license and finally having the freedom to go anywhere I wanted was one of the best days of my life. I had been waiting to drive since I was a toddler!

You won't understand how much better it is until you've driven a manual!

I would stall out in the middle of an intersection and die, either from a car accident or embarrassment! No thank you!

I much prefer this cloudy miserable weather to being too hot. I'm gonna stay put but you're welcome to join me.

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

I would stall out in the middle of an intersection and die, either from a car accident or embarrassment! No thank you!

It only takes a bit of practice, it's fine. You also have roundabouts to deal with over here.

Camus wrote:

I much prefer this cloudy miserable weather to being too hot. I'm gonna stay put but you're welcome to join me.

I'll be there later on today!

Haha, I wish! That weather sounds perfect to me. I love cloudy days and cool temps. When I used to live in Central CA, the temperature was usually in the 60s-70s during the summer and I lived a mile from the beach, so we got fog in the morning and it was just great. Here it's so humid that in the mornings during the summer, the windows actually fog up overnight and it looks so gross outside. Not a nice way to wake up!

Camus wrote:

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

I would stall out in the middle of an intersection and die, either from a car accident or embarrassment! No thank you!

It only takes a bit of practice, it's fine. You also have roundabouts to deal with over here.

I could never drive in England. You guys drive on the wrong side of the road!

Hello again everyone...I just woke up again....being out till 2 really does a number on one.

How can you possibly sleep that late? If I'm up until 2:00, I still have a hard time sleeping until 6:30 or 7:00!

http://www.justin.tv/moncitycoffeeshop/b/323934252 I start at 25 minutes in. and around 2:41:08

Open Mic night last night.

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

How can you possibly sleep that late? If I'm up until 2:00, I still have a hard time sleeping until 6:30 or 7:00!

It is easy- I had gone about18 hours or so without sleep. Or very few caffinated beverages.