US / CAN Tour 2013

with them rescheduling there june tour dates to September it looks I get to go now !!1

StitchesOnTheRadio wrote:

Somebody involved in booking needs to get their shit together me thinks. It still makes no sense that they're rescheduling all of these because of their Europe tour. If they're going to replace them with more EU/UK dates after only coming home long enough for a few west coast dates and 2 nights in AP then I'm gonna have a cow.

Hmm, I wonder if they're not gonna play that Mountain Jam Festival then too. It's the day before Lupo's.

The way these dates were scheduled left one day between Cincinnati and Pinkpop festival in the Netherlands which seemed crazy. I guess someone thought if they wrote it down/agreed to do it, then it could happen. Clearly that was not the case. I seriously doubt they're going to replace them with more UK/Euro shows at this point though.

It's kinda ridiculous that we're learning about these rescheduled/canceled shows from the venues and ticketmaster instead of from the band's official channels. They might not know about it individually but someone on their team does and should be updating people.

ral wrote:

StitchesOnTheRadio wrote:

Somebody involved in booking needs to get their shit together me thinks. It still makes no sense that they're rescheduling all of these because of their Europe tour. If they're going to replace them with more EU/UK dates after only coming home long enough for a few west coast dates and 2 nights in AP then I'm gonna have a cow.

Hmm, I wonder if they're not gonna play that Mountain Jam Festival then too. It's the day before Lupo's.

The way these dates were scheduled left one day between Cincinnati and Pinkpop festival in the Netherlands which seemed crazy. I guess someone thought if they wrote it down/agreed to do it, then it could happen. Clearly that was not the case. I seriously doubt they're going to replace them with more UK/Euro shows at this point though.

It's kinda ridiculous that we're learning about these rescheduled/canceled shows from the venues and ticketmaster instead of from the band's official channels. They might not know about it individually but someone on their team does and should be updating people.

That's true, that's insane because they'd probably want a couple days at home at least, but that explains a few dates not all of them. Who knows though about filling it with EU/UK dates. Just because we don't know what their plans are doesn't mean they don't already have some scheduled. They might not but who knows, they've announce shows kinda last minute plenty of times.

I agree, I didn't think about that. There should be some mass announcement because what about people who are still looking to get tickets? You only got the email if you've already bought them. This is just poor organization. If the venues hadn't told us, who knows when we'd find out.

I don't understand why they rescheduled the entire week though (as opposed to just the last show before Europe maybe)? Or why they scheduled that week in the first place.

So basically they have Australia, then the Stone Pony shows randomly, then right to Europe. Weird.

At any rate, this is a pretty big SNAFU :\

TGA is really bothering me! Haven't been to Pittsburgh since 59 Sound was released! Yeah reschedule our date and go back to Europe for the tenth time ?! Just move over there already!

It seems to me like they would be exhausted from jumping around from country to country. I remember how Brian's voice seemed to suffer by the end of 2012.

rkirkpatrick25 wrote:

I think it's beacuse it's in standard tuning, instead of dropped down a step like they have played in the past

Just saw on Twitter:
@brianmfallon: @bakerfall we always played a whole step down but now we’re in standard! Up high!

Hey,

this is Henning from Germany writing ... i'm gettin nuts because my girl and me are in New York in the early September we will attend to the Huntington Show on September 9 ... *ohyeah!

but ... i got a little question. we're staying in Manhattan and i have no clue about getting from Manhatten to the Paramount ... may someone can help us?!

^^^

http://www.paramountny.com/contact/take-the-train/

rkirkpatrick25 wrote:

I think he's got a lot of wear and tear singing in the low range, so moving it up puts the strain on a different region of his vocal cords, which is why it sounds great...

I think if there's no wear and tear already on your cords, you're absolutely right

Well, this isn't really true. He does sound great in that video, but your vocal folds don't have different areas that correspond to different registers in your voice. Essentially what it boils down to is this: Brian sings from his throat, which is not the way you're supposed to do it, but most rock singers do this anyway. That's why you get a lot of guys who lose their voice really quickly (in addition to drinking, smoking and especially coke/partying). If you do all the "proper" things vocally (warm up, breathe with your diaphragm, mix head voice with chest voice, sing with "the mask") your voice will last much longer.

As to why Brian sounds better there, I'd say it's one of two things:

1) He's mixing head voice with chest voice instead of forcing his voice to hit notes any baritone would struggle with, especially using solely your chest voice and not breathing/singing properly.

2) Fluke.

I'm hoping it's 1, obviously.

It should also be noted that everyone's vocal folds (and thus vocals) are unique and what's true for one person may not be true for another. Some people can sustain more wear and tear than others, some can get away with falling back on bad habits while others can't, etc.

I hope this post didn't make me sound like a pretentious tool. I just wanted to contribute because I feel like Brian's voice is the one thing that (occasionally) holds them back from being the PERFECT live band. Plus it's kind of a big deal that they're now in standard after all these years dropped down a step.

You don't sound like a douche at all. I appreciate someone with some actual knowledge contributing to the discussion.

It's pretty crazy how much better he sounds in the octave up

Jack wrote:

I feel like Brian's voice is the one thing that (occasionally) holds them back from being the PERFECT live band.

I think you're actually being a bit too generous. The absence of any servicable backing vocals at shows is also a significant stumbling block IMO.

rkirkpatrick25 wrote:

It's pretty crazy how much better he sounds in the octave up

It's kind of odd actually because remember how they dropped 45 down after he couldn't consistently hit the notes? So did they bring that one back up too?

It really is an interesting choice on their part. I wonder if they're doing it for the time being just for a change of pace or if this is the new norm.

Can someone link me to the videos that best showcase Brian's improved singing in the now standard tuning? I must have missed them this week.

eagles1139 wrote:

Can someone link me to the videos that best showcase Brian's improved singing in the now standard tuning? I must have missed them this week.

Here's the one previously mentioned in this thread. I don't know if there are others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAZRDSv4iJs

Shrewsbury_Stars wrote:

Jack wrote:

I feel like Brian's voice is the one thing that (occasionally) holds them back from being the PERFECT live band.

I think you're actually being a bit too generous. The absence of any servicable backing vocals at shows is also a significant stumbling block IMO.

Oh, yeah, that too haha. I completely forgot about it. As for the video question, I saw one of Mae that sounded really good as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxBqfID2Ge4

StitchesOnTheRadio wrote:

rkirkpatrick25 wrote:

It's pretty crazy how much better he sounds in the octave up

It's kind of odd actually because remember how they dropped 45 down after he couldn't consistently hit the notes? So did they bring that one back up too?

It really is an interesting choice on their part. I wonder if they're doing it for the time being just for a change of pace or if this is the new norm.

I too am wondering this. Maybe it's a slash and burn type thing, where he's utilizing this other part of his voice to give the other one rest, and he'll switch back when it seems necessary. I feel like it's either that, or they're just deciding to make the transition to standard tuning permanently just to make that the standard from now on.

I can tell you they sounded great with this tuning in Ventura

Also, what's the deal with Coachella Weekend 2? I can barely find any evidence that they performed...

I was kinda expecting that Brian would sing with Matt Mays band or vice versa?
Didn't that happen yet?

Who was at the show in Tempe last night? Is it just me or was Brian wasted towards the end of the set? It was pretty awesome, haha. They closed with Baba O'Riley and he was chugging water and spitting/spraying it all over the stage, then started spraying water over the crowd (Like opening a bottle and shaking it) and then was behind the drums hitting the cymbals, then he was just pouring bottles of water on his head haha.

AmSlang59 wrote:

Who was at the show in Tempe last night? Is it just me or was Brian wasted towards the end of the set? It was pretty awesome, haha. They closed with Baba O'Riley and he was chugging water and spitting/spraying it all over the stage, then started spraying water over the crowd (Like opening a bottle and shaking it) and then was behind the drums hitting the cymbals, then he was just pouring bottles of water on his head haha.

Looks like a hell of a setlist:

Setlist:
High Lonesome
The '59 Sound
Howl
Even Cowgirls Get the Blues
Here Comes my Man
Handwritten
We Came to Dance
American Slang
"45"
Film Noir
Miles Davis and the Cool
Biloxi Parish
The Patient Ferris Wheel
Too Much Blood
The Queen of Lower Chelsea
1930
Great Expectations
Keepsake

Encore:
National Anthem
She Loves You
Mulholland Drive
Desire
Here's Lookin' at you Kid
Baba O'Riley (The Who cover)

Shrewsbury_Stars wrote:

AmSlang59 wrote:

Who was at the show in Tempe last night? Is it just me or was Brian wasted towards the end of the set? It was pretty awesome, haha. They closed with Baba O'Riley and he was chugging water and spitting/spraying it all over the stage, then started spraying water over the crowd (Like opening a bottle and shaking it) and then was behind the drums hitting the cymbals, then he was just pouring bottles of water on his head haha.

Looks like a hell of a setlist:

Setlist:
High Lonesome
The '59 Sound
Howl
Even Cowgirls Get the Blues
Here Comes my Man
Handwritten
We Came to Dance
American Slang
"45"
Film Noir
Miles Davis and the Cool
Biloxi Parish
The Patient Ferris Wheel
Too Much Blood
The Queen of Lower Chelsea
1930
Great Expectations
Keepsake

Encore:
National Anthem
She Loves You
Mulholland Drive
Desire
Here's Lookin' at you Kid
Baba O'Riley (The Who cover)

Yeah, I was pretty surprised at the insanely awesome setlist. They played 8 songs from '59 which was way more than I expected. This was also weird because there was a fight during the first song and Brian stopped between High Lonesome and '59 to break it up and the people straight up would not stop. It was like a 3 minute break with Brian saying, "Dude, please move...Seriously, just move. That's all you gotta do. I can wait up here all night but I'm not letting you ruin it for the rest of the people." Kind of awkward because he seemed really uncomfortable, saying something like "That was weird and I didn't like that. I've got a really bad vibe about this show now - We gotta shake that." I'll find a video.

That sucks that those idiots, whoever they were, couldn't get over their need to fight long enough to just separate and let the show continue. That had to make Brian uncomfortable cuz like, what's he gonna do? Go down there and break it up himself? Did security just ignore it?

I wasn't at the show but did Brian really seem wasted? I mean those things all sound like stuff he'd do when he was just having fun. He seems to get pretty wild during Baba anytime they play it. Idk, I just can't see him getting wasted on stage.

StitchesOnTheRadio wrote:

That sucks that those idiots, whoever they were, couldn't get over their need to fight long enough to just separate and let the show continue. That had to make Brian uncomfortable cuz like, what's he gonna do? Go down there and break it up himself? Did security just ignore it?

I wasn't at the show but did Brian really seem wasted? I mean those things all sound like stuff he'd do when he was just having fun. He seems to get pretty wild during Baba anytime they play it. Idk, I just can't see him getting wasted on stage.

I really couldn't see from where I was standing but I think they were a couple people away from the barrier so security was trying to reach them and people weren't moving.

I found video of the show! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2oZLbz6TPU

But it might have been my poor eye sight that I couldn't really see his facial expressions or anything. Drunk or not, he was still solid and looked like he was having a great time, which made everybody else have a great time He just went absolutely nuts during the song, which you can see in the video!