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saltandburn1967 wrote:

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

Mike, do you have absolutely no temper at all? I find that amazing. In most situations I would agree that violence isn't the answer, but I have a real problems with people who think they can go around treating others like crap and getting away with it. I have never punched anybody, but I've come close a couple of times. Good for you for never resorting to violence though!

I think everyone has a temper...some people are just better hiding it than others. There is absolutely no way someone can go their life without getting angry. I've known people who seem like the happiest people in the world but deep down they are some of the angriest people I have known. I also believe that if you think you are "man enough" to talk to crap on people then you should be "man enough" to get a beating and get what you deserve. I don't believe in letting people say things and think they are bullet proof. Both times I got in these fights I never heard them say things like I heard them say before around me. Its a way to get things done.

I agree that everyone has a temper, but stooping to their level shows that you're no better than them.

Camus wrote:

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

Mike, do you have absolutely no temper at all? I find that amazing. In most situations I would agree that violence isn't the answer, but I have a real problems with people who think they can go around treating others like crap and getting away with it. I have never punched anybody, but I've come close a couple of times. Good for you for never resorting to violence though!

Uhh, I guess not. I've never really considered my lack of temper before now, but it could be that I just hide it really well.

I think that's really impressive, actually. I don't understand it at all , but to be that peaceful is still impressive! I have always been a spitfire and I get all up in arms about things very easily, but I'm trying to control my temper a little better and let the unimportant things go instead of fighting or arguing about them. I wish I was just naturally like that!

Camus wrote:

saltandburn1967 wrote:

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

Mike, do you have absolutely no temper at all? I find that amazing. In most situations I would agree that violence isn't the answer, but I have a real problems with people who think they can go around treating others like crap and getting away with it. I have never punched anybody, but I've come close a couple of times. Good for you for never resorting to violence though!

I think everyone has a temper...some people are just better hiding it than others. There is absolutely no way someone can go their life without getting angry. I've known people who seem like the happiest people in the world but deep down they are some of the angriest people I have known. I also believe that if you think you are "man enough" to talk to crap on people then you should be "man enough" to get a beating and get what you deserve. I don't believe in letting people say things and think they are bullet proof. Both times I got in these fights I never heard them say things like I heard them say before around me. Its a way to get things done.

I agree that everyone has a temper, but stooping to their level shows that you're no better than them.

I don't see how that is stooping down to their level at all. I see a huge difference between calling girls sluts,whores, the 4 letter C word which 99 percent of people hate, and numerous other things different than sticking up for girls who wouldn't harm a fly. But hey, that is just me.

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

Camus wrote:

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

Mike, do you have absolutely no temper at all? I find that amazing. In most situations I would agree that violence isn't the answer, but I have a real problems with people who think they can go around treating others like crap and getting away with it. I have never punched anybody, but I've come close a couple of times. Good for you for never resorting to violence though!

Uhh, I guess not. I've never really considered my lack of temper before now, but it could be that I just hide it really well.

I think that's really impressive, actually. I don't understand it at all , but to be that peaceful is still impressive! I have always been a spitfire and I get all up in arms about things very easily, but I'm trying to control my temper a little better and let the unimportant things go instead of fighting or arguing about them. I wish I was just naturally like that!

I wasn't always like this. I'd read something quite a while back about how holding onto anger only ends up harming yourself and it made perfect sense, and since then I've just been able to let everything go. It didn't make sense to stay angry over such insignificant events.

I think I've only started a fight twice...

Once at a gig when a guy thought he was cool for repeatedly slamming into a girl and hurting her, I just saw red and lashed out, then security give him a kicking as well.

...and when I was sitting peacefully having a drink, whilst my mates skated down the hill a bit, a gang came and started picking on them (the gang was older than the ones they were beating up) because they were different and saw it as an easy fight, picking on kids. I again, saw red, smashed a bottle and jumped right into the middle of the ignorant feckers...they didn't hang around long...

Klown wrote:

I think I've only started a fight twice...

Once at a gig when a guy thought he was cool for repeatedly slamming into a girl and hurting her, I just saw red and lashed out, then security give him a kicking as well.

...and when I was sitting peacefully having a drink, whilst my mates skated down the hill a bit, a gang came and started picking on them (the gang was older than the ones they were beating up) because they were different and saw it as an easy fight, picking on kids. I again, saw red, smashed a bottle and jumped right into the middle of the ignorant feckers...they didn't hang around long...

Can we hang out? You sound like a guy I would love to grab a beer with.

saltandburn1967 wrote:

Camus wrote:

saltandburn1967 wrote:

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

Mike, do you have absolutely no temper at all? I find that amazing. In most situations I would agree that violence isn't the answer, but I have a real problems with people who think they can go around treating others like crap and getting away with it. I have never punched anybody, but I've come close a couple of times. Good for you for never resorting to violence though!

I think everyone has a temper...some people are just better hiding it than others. There is absolutely no way someone can go their life without getting angry. I've known people who seem like the happiest people in the world but deep down they are some of the angriest people I have known. I also believe that if you think you are "man enough" to talk to crap on people then you should be "man enough" to get a beating and get what you deserve. I don't believe in letting people say things and think they are bullet proof. Both times I got in these fights I never heard them say things like I heard them say before around me. Its a way to get things done.

I agree that everyone has a temper, but stooping to their level shows that you're no better than them.

I don't see how that is stooping down to their level at all. I see a huge difference between calling girls sluts,whores, the 4 letter C word which 99 percent of people hate, and numerous other things different than sticking up for girls who wouldn't harm a fly. But hey, that is just me.

If you don't understand how using violence to get your point across is just as low as what they were doing then I'm not sure I could make you understand my viewpoint.

saltandburn1967 wrote:

Can we hang out? You sound like a guy I would love to grab a beer with.

consider it a date

Is it bad that I see both sides of the discussion going on here, and think that they are both right in their own way.

Camus wrote:

saltandburn1967 wrote:

Camus wrote:

saltandburn1967 wrote:

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

Mike, do you have absolutely no temper at all? I find that amazing. In most situations I would agree that violence isn't the answer, but I have a real problems with people who think they can go around treating others like crap and getting away with it. I have never punched anybody, but I've come close a couple of times. Good for you for never resorting to violence though!

I think everyone has a temper...some people are just better hiding it than others. There is absolutely no way someone can go their life without getting angry. I've known people who seem like the happiest people in the world but deep down they are some of the angriest people I have known. I also believe that if you think you are "man enough" to talk to crap on people then you should be "man enough" to get a beating and get what you deserve. I don't believe in letting people say things and think they are bullet proof. Both times I got in these fights I never heard them say things like I heard them say before around me. Its a way to get things done.

I agree that everyone has a temper, but stooping to their level shows that you're no better than them.

I don't see how that is stooping down to their level at all. I see a huge difference between calling girls sluts,whores, the 4 letter C word which 99 percent of people hate, and numerous other things different than sticking up for girls who wouldn't harm a fly. But hey, that is just me.

If you don't understand how using violence to get your point across is just as low as what they were doing then I'm not sure I could make you understand my viewpoint.

Well, I guess we are just going to have to agree to disagree.

Camus wrote:

saltandburn1967 wrote:

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

Mike, do you have absolutely no temper at all? I find that amazing. In most situations I would agree that violence isn't the answer, but I have a real problems with people who think they can go around treating others like crap and getting away with it. I have never punched anybody, but I've come close a couple of times. Good for you for never resorting to violence though!

I think everyone has a temper...some people are just better hiding it than others. There is absolutely no way someone can go their life without getting angry. I've known people who seem like the happiest people in the world but deep down they are some of the angriest people I have known. I also believe that if you think you are "man enough" to talk to crap on people then you should be "man enough" to get a beating and get what you deserve. I don't believe in letting people say things and think they are bullet proof. Both times I got in these fights I never heard them say things like I heard them say before around me. Its a way to get things done.

I agree that everyone has a temper, but stooping to their level shows that you're no better than them.

Hmm...I just had a thought. I wonder if the differences in opinions could be partly based on nationality. I think Chris's viewpoint is very typical of the American way, and I don't think Brits tend to be as hot-headed and physical as we Americans are. There are some big cultural differences there. Most guys I know would definitely agree with Chris. If a dude is causing a problem by being disrespectful or rude, punch his lights out and he won't do it again. I'm not saying that's always the right answer, but I wouldn't be mad if I guy did that for me...assuming I didn't take care of the problem myself already.

saltandburn1967 wrote:

Well, I guess we are just going to have to agree to disagree.

Yep, we can leave it at that.

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

Camus wrote:

saltandburn1967 wrote:

IrishNameAndAnInjury wrote:

Mike, do you have absolutely no temper at all? I find that amazing. In most situations I would agree that violence isn't the answer, but I have a real problems with people who think they can go around treating others like crap and getting away with it. I have never punched anybody, but I've come close a couple of times. Good for you for never resorting to violence though!

I think everyone has a temper...some people are just better hiding it than others. There is absolutely no way someone can go their life without getting angry. I've known people who seem like the happiest people in the world but deep down they are some of the angriest people I have known. I also believe that if you think you are "man enough" to talk to crap on people then you should be "man enough" to get a beating and get what you deserve. I don't believe in letting people say things and think they are bullet proof. Both times I got in these fights I never heard them say things like I heard them say before around me. Its a way to get things done.

I agree that everyone has a temper, but stooping to their level shows that you're no better than them.

Hmm...I just had a thought. I wonder if the differences in opinions could be partly based on nationality. I think Chris's viewpoint is very typical of the American way, and I don't think Brits tend to be as hot-headed and physical as we Americans are. There are some big cultural differences there. Most guys I know would definitely agree with Chris. If a dude is causing a problem by being disrespectful or rude, punch his lights out and he won't do it again. I'm not saying that's always the right answer, but I wouldn't be mad if I guy did that for me...assuming I didn't take care of the problem myself already.

That makes sense. I'd say that I share Mike's viewpoint here.

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I don't hang around people I'd feel the need to punch. Except at concerts. But it's not worth it. Just tell security and hope for the best. Otherwise I'd rather not get kicked out of a show. After the Dimebag incident I don't trust security to catch everything, so you never know what someone's carrying on them.

I listen to Howard Stern every day so my view of how females are discussed is probably a bit different in terms of what I find offensive.

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"hanging out of the back of it"??

excuse me while i go barf.

Classy...eh?! I'm sure that really gets the motors going when talking dirty and whatnot.

Everyone needs to go listen to that new session I just posted in the Video section. The most amazing acoustic version of 45...

Klown wrote:

Everyone needs to go listen to that new session I just posted in the Video section. The most amazing acoustic version of 45...

Yeah, much better than the NME peformance.

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How goes it, boys?

All good, plenty of gaslight goodness today, finding out info from El Jefe, and that fab new session from Brian.

Good times, good times Yourself?

Hey guys!

Gordon, thanks for posting that video and the audio rips for the acoustic 45/American Slang. Oh my gosh, they made me get all teary eyed! Especially the end of AS where Brian changed the lyrics.

I didn't think 45 would be so powerful slowed down like that, but wow, it was really great.