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PostSubject: American Slang (song) Meaning? Joe Strummer?   American Slang (song) Meaning? Joe Strummer? Icon_minitimeMon Jun 21, 2010 4:40 pm

Not overly familiar with The Clash or Joe Strummer, I've heard from a few people that the title track relates to Joe.

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PostSubject: Re: American Slang (song) Meaning? Joe Strummer?   American Slang (song) Meaning? Joe Strummer? Icon_minitimeMon Jun 21, 2010 5:03 pm

ACA wrote:
Not overly familiar with The Clash or Joe Strummer, I've heard from a few people that the title track relates to Joe.

Any ideas?

Huh? It is well know though that 'I'da Called You Woody, Joe' relates to Joe Strummer.
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I'm a huge Clash fan and haven't made any connection between the two. But yes, you may be thinking of "I'da Called You Woody, Joe."
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PostSubject: Re: American Slang (song) Meaning? Joe Strummer?   American Slang (song) Meaning? Joe Strummer? Icon_minitimeMon Jun 21, 2010 10:10 pm

I was seeing a connection with American Slang and Joe Strummer actually.

and they cut me to ribbons and taught me to drive. - he really relates to and feels connected to their music/The Clash was probably part of his soundtrack when he started driving

I got your name tattooed inside of my arm. - he has a Joe Strummer tattoo

I called for my father but my father had died. - Joe Strummer is dead, and he was a hero to Fallon

while you told me fortunes, in American Slang. - though he didn't speak the best english, he still managed to convey his message with kickass music and "American Slang"

I don't know if I'm over analyzing this haha, but I thought of this a couple weeks ago.
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A lot of it could be okay except that last line really doesn't fit. Brian has explained quite a few times that the American Slang is the illusion of the American dream...that it doesn't actually work out that way. And I don't see any reason why Strummer would be speaking American Slang when he's British.
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PostSubject: Re: American Slang (song) Meaning? Joe Strummer?   American Slang (song) Meaning? Joe Strummer? Icon_minitimeMon Jun 21, 2010 10:49 pm

I thought the same thing when I first heard it- I gave this huge explanation to my Dad about how this song was about their musical influences and the whole thing was such a complicated bunch of references that would make people think it was about somethign else....

Turns out we're both wrong....

In the last Making of American Slang he explains the chorus, I can't remember exactly what he says, but each line is a different part of American life basically...

the name tattooed line is the romantic love story, and he explains the others too! check it out on youtube!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKVvQBsaWaI

Fast forward to 1:57 and you'll get his explanation!
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The explanation in that video really helped. The title track might be my new favorite!
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It's about...

life basically.

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PostSubject: American Slang (song) Meaning? Joe Strummer?   American Slang (song) Meaning? Joe Strummer? Icon_minitimeSun Jan 09, 2011 1:31 pm

I met Brian Fallon and he said it was about how he grew up. I f you don't believe me, go to my website and read his exact words: http://gaslightanthemfans.blogspot.com/2010/07/american-slang-song-meaning.html
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simo wrote:
And I don't see any reason why Strummer would be speaking American Slang when he's British.

Completely agree man. I'm a massive Clash fan, since my Dad played them non-stop when I was younger, and I've never had any Clash or Joe Strummer vibes from this song. Personally I think it's allegorical rather than reality.
Also, Brian's tat isn't of Joe's name, it's a charicature image of him and his guitar right? I could be wrong about this but I think I remember watching the video where Brian talks about his tattoos? Please correct me if I'm wrong!
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18milesaminute wrote:
simo wrote:
And I don't see any reason why Strummer would be speaking American Slang when he's British.

Completely agree man. I'm a massive Clash fan, since my Dad played them non-stop when I was younger, and I've never had any Clash or Joe Strummer vibes from this song. Personally I think it's allegorical rather than reality.
Also, Brian's tat isn't of Joe's name, it's a charicature image of him and his guitar right? I could be wrong about this but I think I remember watching the video where Brian talks about his tattoos? Please correct me if I'm wrong!

Yeah your right about the tattoo, it's a charicature image which he saw in a bar, I think I saw the same video Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: American Slang (song) Meaning? Joe Strummer?   American Slang (song) Meaning? Joe Strummer? Icon_minitimeSun Jan 09, 2011 7:00 pm

this video? =)

http://www.rocksound.tv/tv/article/the-gaslight-anthem-ii
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Bea wrote:
this video? =)

http://www.rocksound.tv/tv/article/the-gaslight-anthem-ii

Yeah dude, that's the one! Knew I'd watched him talk about it
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Next time I'm chatting to Mick Jones in Notting Hill Gate, I'll ask him his opinion. Very Happy Cool
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