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@NicholasHorror Good post mate. Most songwriters are aware and very grateful to the people that connect and treasure the songs they write. That's how it should be.
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See, here's how I see it.
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Matt, this is probably the most intelligent post in the whole thread. Clap
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I really don't see one side of this debate convincing the other and people should just agree to disagree.

Either you are bothered by certain comments or you're not. If you're not bothered, great, I don't want you to be. But don't tell me I'm "fucking ridiculous" if I feel differently.

The fact is that some people view all things Brian Fallon-related through rose tinted glasses and they drink the Brian Fallon Kool-Aid. And that's fine. I'm just not one of those folks.
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Here is part of an interview I did with Frank Turner that gives you an insight as to how it is dealing with fans. Not saying that Brian agrees with Frank 100%, but since they seem to have similar sensibilities about things, I am sure he can relate.
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Shrewsbury- I've seen people say extremely dumb things to band members. For example, I've seen idiots try to encourage a known recovering alcoholic to get drunk with them, and groupie girls hit on band members while wives are standing RIGHT THERE. People are ridiculous and I fully believe someone would say something that stupid to Brian and that they say it enough that it's kind of freaking him out. He's just being real. That's it.

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His answers are only as new and interesting as the questions he's asked are.

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You opened with "May," one of the slower songs off Handwritten.

it would just be nice if he gave some insight into why he thinks Mae is a good opener instead of just relating it all back to his thing about how he doesn't care what people think and how the band will do what it feels like.
I don't know what you're getting at here. This was his answer to that question.
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It's real slow. It's odd. People are like, 'Why are you doing that? Why are you starting with a slow song?' It's because that's what we do. When we're playing our own shows, we kind of have this flow that goes much like a play. For us it's just night to night. It's different. You're coming to see us, but whatever you get, that's what you get. Some nights you get, as they say, the hits set. Or some nights you get the weird set. I'm not gonna go out there and play the same thing every night. Some bands do that. It drives me crazy. Fortunately for us, there's not like really a "hit song."
It's impossible to satisfy everyone in the crowd. What is the problem with what he said here? scratch


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just to clear this up, i'm not "drinking the Brian Fallon kool-aid". my position on this topic actually has very little to do w/ Brian Fallon, but with any "famous" or semi-well known public person who has to deal with this issue.
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I really don't see one side of this debate convincing the other and people should just agree to disagree.

Either you are bothered by certain comments or you're not. If you're not bothered, great, I don't want you to be. But don't tell me I'm "fucking ridiculous" if I feel differently.

The fact is that some people view all things Brian Fallon-related through rose tinted glasses and they drink the Brian Fallon Kool-Aid. And that's fine. I'm just not one of those folks.

I agree mate. We are all entiltled to our opinions here. Telling us were ridiculous for taking Brians attitude the way we have is ridiculous. Brian seems to idolize Strummer in a way he tells us not too with him so that also seems ridiculous
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The fact is that some people view all things Brian Fallon-related through rose tinted glasses and they drink the Brian Fallon Kool-Aid. And that's fine. I'm just not one of those folks.

Straw man argument!

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just to clear this up, i'm not "drinking the Brian Fallon kool-aid". my position on this topic actually has very little to do w/ Brian Fallon, but with any "famous" or semi-well known public person who has to deal with this issue.


It's only an issue if you can't accept that some people are bloody odd. That's no reason to treat everyone like they could be potential bunny boilers.
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just to clear this up, i'm not "drinking the Brian Fallon kool-aid". my position on this topic actually has very little to do w/ Brian Fallon, but with any "famous" or semi-well known public person who has to deal with this issue.

THIS.
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Theyve mentioned meet and greets in the fan club and if they intend to do this then they wont be meeting fans at shows anyway as it would take the shine off those that got a meet and greet.
Have also personally seen bands meet people out at the bus after charging fans inside for a meet and greet.
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Then again hes in the wrong game and naive if he thinks you can play in a "BIG BAND" and not have these issues with some fans or a loss of privacy. But a decent fan is always respectful of this and doesnt try to interupt their lives. and its decent fans who watch these video interviews when they pop up.
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Theyve mentioned meet and greets in the fan club and if they intend to do this then they wont be meeting fans at shows anyway as it would take the shine off those that got a meet and greet.
Have also personally seen bands meet people out at the bus after charging fans inside for a meet and greet.
same. had Tim Armstrong call me over to meet him then met him again where he dropped some gear on the bus and came straight back over for a chat and hang out with me and mates. Now thats a fan's man haha
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Then again hes in the wrong game and naive if he thinks you can play in a "BIG BAND" and not have these issues with some fans or a loss of privacy. But a decent fan is always respectful of this and doesnt try to interupt their lives. and its decent fans who watch these video interviews when they pop up.

Yeah, crazy fans are one of those things that come with the job. I have a buddy who is one of the nicest, most genuine people you will ever meet. He is also a police officer. Two weeks ago he shot and killed a man because they drew a gun on his partner. Killing a person, no matter who they are, is a hard thing to deal with and fucks up your mind completely. He hasn't been the same guy really but he still says it is part of a job and he knew it could happen. I am just saying, you have to know fan's are going to become a huge thing once you get to a certain level of fame. Quit bitching about it.....killing a person and wiping their soul from existence is a lot harder to do than turning down someones request for a pizza and coke. Many of my friends are paramedics, firefighters, police officers, military personal, nurses, and doctors and they never bitch about their job. No offense to the big rockers out there but these jobs I just listed are a MUCH MUCH MUCH harder than being in a rock and roll band. I think I just hate when people bitch about things.........
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Then again hes in the wrong game and naive if he thinks you can play in a "BIG BAND" and not have these issues with some fans or a loss of privacy. But a decent fan is always respectful of this and doesnt try to interupt their lives. and its decent fans who watch these video interviews when they pop up.

Yeah, crazy fans are one of those things that come with the job. I have a buddy who is one of the nicest, most genuine people you will ever meet. He is also a police officer. Two weeks ago he shot and killed a man because they drew a gun on his partner. Killing a person, no matter who they are, is a hard thing to deal with and fucks up your mind completely. He hasn't been the same guy really but he still says it is part of a job and he knew it could happen. I am just saying, you have to know fan's are going to become a huge thing once you get to a certain level of fame. Quit bitching about it.....killing a person and wiping their soul from existence is a lot harder to do than turning down someones request for a pizza and coke. Many of my friends are paramedics, firefighters, police officers, military personal, nurses, and doctors and they never bitch about their job. No offense to the big rockers out there but these jobs I just listed are a MUCH MUCH MUCH harder than being in a rock and roll band. I think I just hate when people bitch about things.........
I think you make a few good points there.

Besides, I remember reading an interview (last year or the year before) where he said he doesn't want to be Billie Joe Armstrong famous, yet he keeps saying he wants to fill arenas. It doesn't work that way.
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Believe everything you read. Please. It's the only way to form proper opinions on anyone. Especially an interview that claims to have taken place at Lollapalooza but states they opened up with "Mae." Clearly no editing going on there at all.
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He also said how when he was a kid he met someone from Skid Row or something and how they were super friendly and how he always wants to be good to fans because he doesn't want them to remember their one time meeting him being lame because of stupid reasons. I wish more people were like Frank Turner. We are all the same. Not "fans", y'know? Just people, who dig what other people do. Doesn't make us inferior.
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But it's not just a one off. He's stated this in at least 3 interviews I have read. I don't know why you and others feel obliged to defend Brian at all costs. What was said that irked some fans has been very clearly discussed in this thread and no one can tell me how I should feel about it.
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No one can tell me how to feel either. You don't understand us defending him and I don't understand why you insist on spinning him as a jerk.

What a fun thread!
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No one can tell me how to feel either. You don't understand us defending him and I don't understand why you insist on spinning him as a jerk.

What a fun thread!

It really is, isn't it? I'm sure this is what Brian was talking about when he said, "Dimestore Saints is a great place to check out and hang with some really nice people." Rolling Eyes
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I don't see how anyone in this thread hasn't been nice, Shannon.
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I'd also like everyone to direct their attention to the top of this web page.

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Yeh. Sounds like Brian really doesn't like his fans. Rolling Eyes
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but we don't know Brian as a person, so maybe we shouldn't judge him either. Just my opinion.

I could not agree more

We aren't judging him as a person. We are judging him as the face of a rock'n'roll band. I don't think Brian Fallon is arrogant or an asshole or anything like that. I do think that he should choose his conversation topics directly regarding fans more wisely.

Don't keep telling your fans how they should view your place/status in the music scene. And stop using every interview as a platform to tell fans you have no interest in going to dinner with them or whatever hyperbolic situation you feel like using in that moment. These types of statements come across as arrogant and condescending to many people. That's just the reality (note: comes across as). I don't care what he's like as a person, it's just not good business.
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No one can tell me how to feel either. You don't understand us defending him and I don't understand why you insist on spinning him as a jerk.

What a fun thread!

But I ain't telling you how to feel haha just expressing my own viewpoint.

This is a forum. Not Kansas.
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I thought this was a good interview. I really don't understand why people think Brian is coming off so badly. Just because he doesn't want to hang out with fans in his downtime and be everybody's best friend doesn't mean he's being a jerk. Maybe he just likes his personal space and wants to keep his life off the stage as private as possible, which is probably getting more difficult all the time.

Clap Clap Clap

srsly, this thread is fucking ridiculous, and this attitude a lot of fans here have towards him is exactly what he's talking about. i don't even know what to say, it's just all so fucking ridiculous and petty.

Actually, most people on here are saying he's coming across as a jerk. Not that they want to be his friend (which is what he's pushing against). In fact, most people who do express an opinion in this regard are saying they DON'T want to know him personally either. It's exactly the opposite of what he's talking about.
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steph wrote:
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I thought this was a good interview. I really don't understand why people think Brian is coming off so badly. Just because he doesn't want to hang out with fans in his downtime and be everybody's best friend doesn't mean he's being a jerk. Maybe he just likes his personal space and wants to keep his life off the stage as private as possible, which is probably getting more difficult all the time.

Clap Clap Clap

srsly, this thread is fucking ridiculous, and this attitude a lot of fans here have towards him is exactly what he's talking about. i don't even know what to say, it's just all so fucking ridiculous and petty.

Actually, most people on here are saying he's coming across as a jerk. Not that they want to be his friend (which is what he's pushing against). In fact, most people who do express an opinion in this regard are saying they DON'T want to know him personally either. It's exactly the opposite of what he's talking about.
This is what I've been trying to convey as well.
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