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PostSubject: 21 Oct 2010 Hammersmith 2-cam Mix HD + DVD   21 Oct 2010 Hammersmith 2-cam Mix HD + DVD Icon_minitimeMon Oct 25, 2010 10:19 pm

Not nearly finished yet, but I'll probably forget to post about it otherwise.

Filmed by myself and a dude called Nick, whom at least one of the British members here knows. Two HD camcorders, both full length recordings, footage pretty damn freaking good. Rock-steady, close, etc. I've been to 3 GLA shows in the past few days and the lighting has been pretty sucky at all of them. The cameras agree with my assesment, and they do not like it. The left-angle cam has better low-light performance than the right-angle cam, and even it was struggling. Right-angle is darker than I'd like, but not too bad with a bit of post-processing.

I got an external audio recording too... which is not so good, unfortunately. But perfectly listenable, and it sounds better when watched alongside the video. Vocals are very low in the mix on the tape, but my brain seems to be tricking my ears into believing they're louder than they really are just 'cause I can see them being sung. Hopefully the same will happen to you.

In a burst of enthusiasm I've gotten the first third of the show edited in the past couple of hours, so, a brief sample:
EDIT: NEW LINK, YOUTUBE FAILS HARD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsGrNzusKTM
Youtube is still processing the video at the moment (2:18am GMT Tuesday morning), shouldn't be long. Pretty representative I think. Some good parts, some not so good parts, some heads visible in the left-angle. That happens a more times than I'd like so I have to cut away more than I'd like. But still, very good overall. Only a quick edit and quick upload so it's a small, low-res web video. Probably not the final cut either - only a first draft run-through and I am really very tired. lol I just realised the right-angle on this song isn't actually as rock-steady as it is for most of the rest of the show. Oh well, no biggie.

Final version will be 2 PAL DVDs and a 8.5GB 720p MKV file. Both uploaded to DIME-A-DOZEN. Possibly some other torrent site too if people want it and don't have a DIME account.

Shouldn't take long to complete so if I don't update this thread in 1.5 to 2 months ish start PMing me and hopefully I'll get e-mails to remind me to come back + update.

Hope someone gets some mileage out of this!


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Awesome news. Looking forward to it.
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Link doesn't work now...
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Tailschao wrote:
Final version will be 2 PAL DVDs and a 8.5GB 720p MKV file. Both uploaded to DIME-A-DOZEN. Possibly some other torrent site too if people want it and don't have a DIME account.

This sounds AWESOME (I don't think I've used the term here before). I am happy to wait for as long as it takes (which shouldn't be too long, should it? Very Happy), as this is one show that really needed to be recorded.

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couldn't it be also uploaded to megaupload/rapidshare? Sad


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Awesome! Link doesn't work though!
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EPIC youtube failure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsGrNzusKTM

Apologies.
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Tailschao wrote:
EPIC youtube failure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsGrNzusKTM

Apologies.
looks amazing! can't wait to watch the full thing (:
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Looks great! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: 21 Oct 2010 Hammersmith 2-cam Mix HD + DVD   21 Oct 2010 Hammersmith 2-cam Mix HD + DVD Icon_minitimeTue Oct 26, 2010 2:10 pm

Brian Fallon is really one of the most soulful people I've ever heard singing such bluesy songs.
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thanks ! For such an awesome show (so Ive heard) Im glad someone is doing a nice video of it!
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Public Service Announcement: If this was you, be ashamed of yourself.
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Honestly, I feel like picketing something. Bootleggers against Bobble-hats or something.

Cunt thinks he can just hang out in front of my lens? Think again, son Evil or Very Mad
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What ever happened to this? I'm really trying to find a good quality version of She Loves You that he performed at this show, it sounds outstanding on the other lower quality vids on youtube.
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Wow, I hope we find out where this project ended up! The preview video has me excited!


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Wow, really funny this thread should get updated so recently.

I am literally this very second preparing the 1st Disc for upload to DIME.

Apologies for taking longer than planned. Been busy, ya know.


SteadyNowSteadyNow - sorry man, I didn't mean to ignore your PM, I read it and just completely forgot. I think I'd already written my reply to you in my head, but then I forgot I'd not actually sent it and my brain filed it away under 'completed'. Genuine apologies. I'm also sorry that I didn't notice the shoutout at all. I've listened to the whole thing in the course of editing many times and didn't come across it. Though it is very possible I missed it somewhere. Also possible it is in one of the hard-to-understand sections between songs. Maybe got lost in the muddle of venue acoustics. I dunno. If it is indeed there I'm sure you'll find it when you listen. Sorry!


Oh bloddy hell. DIME is down. Sigh... It's 5:30am. I need to be back to a non-vampire based sleep schedule by the start of school next Tuesday... ah shit I'm going to bed. It could be down for hours, not gonna wait to find out. I will set off the upload as soon as I wake. Probably mid afternoon sometime LOL.
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Oh, nope, DIME is back up.

Whoop.

OK, link:
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=337845&hit=1
Below is a copy and paste of the info file.
Nighty night.

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The Gaslight Anthem
Live at the Hammersmith Apollo, Hammersmith, London, England
21st October 2010
PAL DVD (Disc 1 of 2)
2-camera mix

An NB/Tailschao Production.

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Video 1 Lineage....: Canon HF100 (1920x1080, 25p, 17Mbit AVCHD) > Avisynth Script 1* > Uncompressed UYVY .avi > Adobe Premiere Pro CS4 (Editing)
Video 2 Lineage....: Sony TG3 (1920x1080, 50i, 10Mbit AVCHD) > Avisynth Script 2* > Uncompressed UYVY .avi > Adobe Premiere Pro CS4 (Editing)
Video Post Linage..: Adobe Premiere Pro CS4 (Editing) > Uncompressed UYVY .avi > Avisynth Script 3* > CCE SP2 > Adobe Encore CS4
Audio Lineage......: Church Audio CA-11 Cardioid > CA ST-9100 Preamp > Zoom H2 (24Bit/48Khz) > Adobe Audition 3 > Adobe Encore CS4

*Avisynth Script 1
avcsource("X:\CanonHF100Input.dga")
levels(1,1.2,255,0,255)
fft3dfilter(sigma=2.25,plane=0,sharpen=0.1)
fft3dgpu(sigma=1.25,plane=3)
removegrain(mode=2)

*Avisynth Script 2
avcsource("X:\SonyTG3Input.dga")
tdeint(mode=1)
levels(4,1.4,255,0,255)
tweak(sat=0.9)
fft3dfilter(sigma=0.5,plane=0,sharpen=0.2)
fft3dgpu(sigma=0.15,plane=3)
removegrain(mode=2)
selecteven()

*Avisynth Script 3
avisource("X:\EditedDVDDisc1.avi")
spline36resize(720,576)

--------------------------------

Video Format.......: MPEG-2 (DVD-Compliant VIDEO_TS Folder, encoded with CCE SP2)
Video Resolution...: 720x576 (16:9)
Video Bitrate......: 9200 Kbit/Sec (Constant)
Video Framerate....: 25p (disguised as 50i to comply with DVD Spec)
Video Standard.....: PAL

Audio Format.......: AC3 (16Bit, 48Khz, encoded with Adobe Encore CS4)
Audio Bitrate......: 192 Kbit/Sec

--------------------------------

Video recording by NB (Video 2, shot from the right) and Tailschao (Video 1, shot from the left).
Audio Recording and DVD production by Tailschao.

Video 1 is a locked down zoom in of Brian at centre stage. Camera was unmonitored. Manual focus, manual exposure (set to max) set in during support acts. Very steady, but with obstructions (I didn't notice as I was not monitoring the footage).
Video 2 was monitored & handled, and thus, the camera work is superior. Opposite side of the hall to camera 1, shoots band-members where appropriate, gets out of the way of obstructive heads, etc. Also very steady, from about 3 songs in.

Most of the obstuctions in Camera 1 are located in the middle third of the show. Unfortunately, they also mostly provided by the same guy... who doesn't move. He wanders into frame, then decides to hang out for 45 mins. So for most of the middle part of the show Camera 2 is by far the most active. Not that that's a bad thing, it's just that going multiple songs with just 1 or 2 edits begins to stretch the definition of a 2-camera mix after a while.

The lighting in there was terrible. Seriously. Not the kind of thing I'd have noticed if I was just in the audience like a normal person, but from a video perspective it was just dismal. Camera 1 was manually exposed and Camera 2 auto exposed - but that didn't matter, both cams spent all night wide open. I never saw the exposure on Cam 2 close down once (when viewing the footage during editing, I mean). Not that it should have, wide open was what it needed.

As a result, the technical aspects of the video leave a bit to be desired. I've brightened and denoised, but there's only so much I can do. Final encode is noisier than I would like.

That said, it is still very good. Both angles close and steady. I have a history of being a bit split-screen-happy with my editing. I've kept it to a minimum here.

I'm sure the detectives amongst you will be able to figure out where we shot this from. It's kinda the only place to film from in the Hammersmith Apollo. You might have even seen Camera 2 in action. He fashioned a genuis makeshift tripod on-the-fly. Some serious MacGyver shit.


The Audio is also not brilliant. I taped it from where I was video taping. Not a good audio location. It sounds better than it sounded to my ears on the night. Unfortunately, to my ears on the night, it sounded like a big undercooked chunk of shit in a casserole of shit, so that doesn't mean much. OK I'm exaggerating, but still. Put it this way - it's better if you know the lyrics already. Seeing the video helps too - eyes trick the brain into thinking the vocals are clearer than they really are simply because you can see Brian singing them.

I was hoping another audio tape would surface. Unfortunately... not the case.

So here we are.



Overall, a DVD that is annoying because it could so easily have been better. But still a very good one.

I don't think I'm going to be uploading a HD version after all - the with the visual quality from the lighting and processing and brightening and denoising etc, there would not be much point. I also have a feeling I set Camera 1 slightly out of focus. So yeah. SD DVD is all you're gonna be getting.

There's one sample here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsGrNzusKTM
I will probably upload a couple more soon. But it's 5:30am and my sleep schedule is already fucked up enough. I'm going to bed.

I Hope you all had a Merry Christmas, and may 2011 be filled with much joy and music and taping galore.

DVD 2 follows when DVD 1 finished.

FLAC Audio by itself will follow after that.

I'm tired so if I've forgotten anything I will add to comments. But I think everything important is covered.


DVD 1 Tracklist:
Intro
High Lonesome
Stay Lucky
Bring It On
The Diamond Church Street Choir
Old White Lincoln
Even Cowgirls Get the Blues
Old Haunts
Wherefore Art Thou, Elvis?
Casanova, Baby!
I Coul'da Been a Contender
Miles Davis and the Cool
Blue Jeans & White T-Shirts
I'da Called You Woody, Joe
Angry Johnny And The Radio


Enjoy :-)

-- Tailschao (2010-12-30)
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Looks great! Will check it! Do I really need to sign up for this file only though or is anyone going to upload it to a public site?
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the file is 4.01GB, so i don't think anyone's going to upload it any time soon =P
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Downloading. Let's see how long this takes.
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I can put it on The Traders Den afterwards if enough people want me to.

Traders Den is still a torrent site and you'll still have to register, but DIME registrations are closed so you can't get it from there if you don't already have an account.

FWIW, I'd very much rather nobody re-encode it to a lower resolution/lower bitrate XviD avi file and re-upload somewhere else. I'm not gonna get all whiny if you do, but I humbly request that you please don't. It's already blocky enough. If you want the DVD, please please make the effort to either sign up to The Traders Den and download the full total 8GB or pester some kind soul to download, burn and mail you a copy.
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Dime isn't closed. I just signed up. Sometimes you just have to wait for an account for a few minutes I think.
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Well they open periodically when they delete old inactive accounts. But, ostensibly, they are closed to any additional members beyond their current numbers.

I think you were just lucky to have gotten in straight away. It took me nearly a month of trying before I got in lol. Unless they've gotten much more open recently, which is possible I suppose.

Trying to get into DIME would probably be the first port of call for anyone who wants it, yeah.
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Just today i was scouring youtube trying to find we did it from hammersmith but nobody u/l it. you sir are a gentleman and a scholar and if you ever find yourself in dublin i owe ya a pint.
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Awesome stuff. I'll probably hold out for the flac audio, but thank you for all your hard work this is something special.

And from what I can tell this concert was awesome.
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Been downloading 5 hours and I'm at 17%. Oh boy. It will be worth it though, and it's no big deal to run uTorrent in the background
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