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PostSubject: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeSat Jul 03, 2010 5:51 am

I was just wondering in more then a few songs , Gaslight Anthem refers to " the cool " in there lyrics , and i was wondering if anyone knew what it was , and what it meant.
 
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeSat Jul 03, 2010 6:31 am

In "Miles Davis and the Cool" it goes:

"Like Miles Davis, I've been swayed by the cool.
There's just something about the summertime.
There's just something about the moon.
So I'll lay a kiss on a stone, toss it upside your window, by the roof.
Before you change your mind, Miles, bring in the cool."

I take from that it's the music he's playing for the girl, who he's trying to get the attention of.

But, i mean, anyone can take it differently.
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeSat Jul 03, 2010 6:51 am

He also mentions it on American Slang.

Quote :
The cool is dead, baby
Go on and sleep
Rest your weary head and love a better me
And in the morning
We'll start over again

Quote :
So give me the fevers that just won't break
And give me the children you don't want to raise
And tell me about the cool
He sings to you in those songs
If it's better than my love
Then bring it on
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeSun Jul 04, 2010 2:22 am

the cool was like a sort of jazz movement that miles davis was a part of; "cool jazz"
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeSun Jul 04, 2010 2:51 am

Miles Davis - The Birth of the Cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pOvhv78Clk
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeSun Jul 04, 2010 5:51 am

rem999 wrote:
the cool was like a sort of jazz movement that miles davis was a part of; "cool jazz"

cool; thanks "the cool" Icon_wink
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeSun Jul 04, 2010 7:55 am

listenin to gaslight has totally gotten me into miles davis, and now otis redding, and i'm totally grateful. cuz both those guys rock!!

i read somewhere that that's what brian was tryin to do when he quotes these guys, is to let us all know of his inflences, and maybe get us to check 'em out. well it worked with me!.
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeSun Jul 04, 2010 8:47 am

randomhero78 wrote:
listenin to gaslight has totally gotten me into miles davis, and now otis redding, and i'm totally grateful. cuz both those guys rock!!

i read somewhere that that's what brian was tryin to do when he quotes these guys, is to let us all know of his inflences, and maybe get us to check 'em out. well it worked with me!.
You should definitely put on some Sam Cooke one of these nights then =)
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeSun Jul 04, 2010 2:53 pm

I loved Sam Cooke even before I found Gaslight. Amazing voice.
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeMon Jul 05, 2010 2:40 pm

would someone care to explain why "jackson"? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeMon Jul 05, 2010 2:41 pm

Johnny Cash/June Carter? It's a guess, like.
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeMon Jul 05, 2010 2:45 pm

Quote :
Why "Jackson!" to punctuate the "So why don't you sing to me on this long drive home" stanza?

Jackson
was the name of the kid in the studio who was cleaning while we were
recording. I put his name in there because I thought he was the coolest
kid—very humble, great guy. We spoke about his grandmother and church.
Nobody seemed to pay him any mind, so I gave him a shout-out. It also
just sounds cool.

http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/the-gaslight-anthems-miles-davis-and-the-cool/Content?oid=1215309
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeMon Jul 05, 2010 2:47 pm

Nice anecdote.
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeMon Jul 05, 2010 3:22 pm

that's nice of Brian. thanks
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeWed Jul 07, 2010 9:35 pm

Compare

Quote :

You remind Nana, if she asks why, that a thief stole my heart while she
was making up her mind. I heard she lives in Brooklyn with the cool, goes crazy over that New
York scene on 7th Avenue.

with

Quote :

The cool is dead, baby go on and sleep
Rest your weary head and
love a better me

Same "cool" / girl?
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeSat Jul 10, 2010 11:32 pm

I always imagined the 'cool' in GA songs to be a generic jock/casanova/good looking/charmer/perfect etc sorta person. The sort of bloke who the girls always prefer over him.
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeSun Jul 11, 2010 2:29 pm

loazis wrote:
randomhero78 wrote:
listenin to gaslight has totally gotten me into miles davis, and now otis redding, and i'm totally grateful. cuz both those guys rock!!

i read somewhere that that's what brian was tryin to do when he quotes these guys, is to let us all know of his inflences, and maybe get us to check 'em out. well it worked with me!.
You should definitely put on some Sam Cooke one of these nights then =)

i've totally done that, and for the last week have just been cranking the sam cooke throughout my house.

friggin awesome!!
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeMon Jul 12, 2010 1:18 am

Yeah, there used to be all kinds of jazz, and swing stuff. The cool truly is dead, because it just isn't what it used to be. It's all in reference to Miles Davis, the birth of the cool, and King Of Cool. And I sometimes hate those lyric pages. They're rarely accurate.

It's just one of many things that influenced Brian. Just like Joe Strummer, The Boss, Bob Dylan, Old Movies, like Casablanca, and On The Waterfront. He's just a very nostalgic songwriter, and I think that's why this is the greatest band on the planet.
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeMon Jul 12, 2010 12:09 pm

randomhero78 wrote:
loazis wrote:
randomhero78 wrote:
listenin to gaslight has totally gotten me into miles davis, and now otis redding, and i'm totally grateful. cuz both those guys rock!!

i read somewhere that that's what brian was tryin to do when he quotes these guys, is to let us all know of his inflences, and maybe get us to check 'em out. well it worked with me!.
You should definitely put on some Sam Cooke one of these nights then =)

i've totally done that, and for the last week have just been cranking the sam cooke throughout my house.

friggin awesome!!
Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeMon Jul 26, 2010 1:57 pm

I feel like the Cool could be the past, and how it's romanticized by the characters in the '59 Sound and American Slang. But I think by Spirit of Jazz they get throw it away. I'm not sure.
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeMon Jul 26, 2010 4:24 pm

DeathoftheCool wrote:
I feel like the Cool could be the past, and how it's romanticized by the characters in the '59 Sound and American Slang. But I think by Spirit of Jazz they get throw it away. I'm not sure.
I think the way Brain uses the Cool it represents some sort of nostalgic romanticism. In a 'it was way better back in the days' kind of way. Throwing rocks against the window of your first love instead of poking her on Facebook for example.
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PostSubject: Re: "the cool"   "the cool" Icon_minitimeTue Jul 27, 2010 1:31 am

loazis wrote:
DeathoftheCool wrote:
I feel like the Cool could be the past, and how it's romanticized by the characters in the '59 Sound and American Slang. But I think by Spirit of Jazz they get throw it away. I'm not sure.
I think the way Brain uses the Cool it represents some sort of nostalgic romanticism. In a 'it was way better back in the days' kind of way. Throwing rocks against the window of your first love instead of poking her on Facebook for example.

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